This was a point I was making in another of the qb-related threads or hell it could've been this one. If we know after the season, we're going to draft a QB with our 1st pick do we stick with Lovie/Pep? Because if we do and it's a sh_t show part deux, are we going to submit our "franchise QB" to two different staffs/systems in 2 years? Maybe we do, it seems to be working out for Trev in JAX, but I would think you would want to wash the slate clean and bring in Caserio's ideal candidate/staff.
I'm always like the coaching staff should always adapt to what makes the Qb comfortable. Davis has said he is the most comfortable in shotgun and they run a ton of it for him. But check out the stats shotgun vs under center. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MillDa02/splits/2022/ 63 rating in shotgun vs 125 rating under center.
Fine, How many starts are you going to give the drafted QB before you start questioning his ability to be a franchise QB. Mills has now started approximately 17 NFL games and 10 college games. Most around here started questioning Mills after 8-10 NFL games as to whether he is a NFL QB. The newly drafted QB will have at least 25-35 college starts so I would think these questions need to be asked of the new rookie QB much sooner since he will have more experience and after this next draft better weapons to work with. BTW, I'm not saying Mills is a franchise QB.
I thought he said he was most comfortable running an uptempo offense. They sure aren't doing much of this.
It depends. If you draft a qb in the first round with good physical traits, I’d want to see something within the first two years that would make me commit for more development. Accuracy, going through reads, and performing in key moments. I don’t expect to see it every game, but you should see more and more of those traits as they gain experience if they have that upside. If they showed those signs then I’d probably make the final call at the end of the 3rd season. For later round qbs, especially ones with limited physical traits like Davis Mills, final call would be at end of 2nd season, and they have to show flashes in first season that they play. These aren’t hard and fast rules but I’d be comfortable with those parameters before deciding to draft another qb. Also have to remember this is the NFL. It is a performance league. Trevor Lawrence was the first overall pick and has far more physical tools than Davis Mills and yet the jags fan base is currently seriously questioning whether he’s the answer and I don’t blame them. It’s hard to be a successful qb if you aren’t consistently accurate and this is something that both Davis and Trevor struggle with.
I wouldn't say Lawrence traits are any better than Mills. What traits do you think Lawrence has that are better? I don't think Lawrence arm is stronger or more accurate. Mobility is about the same even though Lawrence runs slightly more often. In short they both aren't very good. My point is I don't think Mills has done well, but he's done as well as any QB in his class and there are growing pains. I hope they go with Mills next season and draft a QB in 2024. Ewers
Come on man. Lawrence is bigger, has a stronger arm and can throw from different arm angles, and is faster and a better runner. He also had a significantly better college career. No matter how he ultimately performs in the NFL, there’s a reason he was considered so highly as a prospect. If you’re saying after watching them both play that Trevor Lawrence and Davis Mills are equal as runners, there’s no real legitimate conversation that I could have with you because that’s a distortion of reality and I like to have conversations about what’s happening on the field and not test times.
Did you see the hail Mary on the last play of the game? Lawrence threw the ball about 50 of the 50 yds needed to get the ball to the end zone. I contend that Lawrence loads up his throws on the deep intermediate stuff and because of this sails throws. Mills is actually more accurate than Mills inside the numbers. Lawrence isn't significantly bigger than Mills. Lawrence is a better runner although since Mills ran a 4.6 at the combine they're just about as fast as each other. What I'm wondering is if Mills is being coached not to run? Mills is a severely underdeveloped QB. Can his learning curve catch-up ? I'm guessing not. Particularly not in a Lovie conservative style offense. BTW, Lawrence still has a lot of developing ito do to become a top 15 QB. Can he do it? Being under Pedersons watch, he's got a chance, but I wouldn't bet on it happening. Right now I would rather be in the Texans position with the draft picks for the next 2 years than the Jags position being stuck with Lawrence for the next 3 years. It would almost be like being stuck with Mills and betting on his development for the next 3 years. No thank you, pass on that.
The book on Pep in Chicago is that he is very good at developing a relationship with his QB's and helping them mentally prepare. Almost every QB he has worked with has spoken glowingly of him when it comes to preparing them to compete as a QB. The problem is that there has been a lot of skepticism of him as a play caller and sometimes he wears out his welcome too. He really wants to be an OC and HC, but I am not sure he is going to be that long term at the NFL level.
Mills didn’t run that much in high school nor college. He is not comfortable running and no amount of quoting of his pro day time is going to make him comfortable. Daniel Jones ran a 4.81 and the difference is striking. The times aren’t important.
It’s a shame too, if you have that timed athleticism, you should use it. That’s like going to a fight and tying one arm behind your back.
That number one draft spot is still safe n sound, I think they were last team to get a win, a few wins out of 17 games shouldn't take Texans out of that top spot or top two at worst case
