1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

How are the Golden State Warriors so good?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Juxtaposed Jolt, Nov 13, 2021.

  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    98,874
    Likes Received:
    48,792
    Younger Draymond was better, his game has regressed and he got bigger injuries now.

    Bigger ego as well.
     
    roslolian likes this.
  2. foh

    foh Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2014
    Messages:
    1,317
    Likes Received:
    1,118
    They treat Green as if he was the co-coach on that team along with Kerr, so the comparison should be more that your coworker has a boss, who is about to be getting paid less than said co-worker.

    Video kinda helps them at reducing Green's outsized ego down to earth using the public outcry/criticism and with time possibly improving team's chemistry (ie fewer egos clashing). In a way, GSW are lucky again. That is if they play it right and do issue a punishment while telling Green that it's needed for PR purposes, but really doing it so that Poole is happy. They wouldn't have punished Green if the video didn't leak and then Poole's revenge would've been a festering issue all season for them.
     
  3. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,827
    Likes Received:
    16,639
    I don't think that punch ever connected, although Shaq immediately put Charles in a headlock (lol), and when that altercation happened, they weren't playing for the same team.

    Who knows? Maybe Poole will forgive. But this situation and the Charles/Shaq situation, is entirely different.
     
    Yung-T likes this.
  4. TimDuncanDonaut

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    15,228
    Likes Received:
    36,347
    Not everyone mellows out as they get older. Draymond even in practice can't keep his emotion in check. If someone is a co-leader, an org should expect more (not less).

    Few fallouts:

    1. Meyers, Kerr and the GSW org took an image hit at how they handle to the sweep under the rug. They seem to be more worry about the leaker than the perpetrator.

    Even if these things are 'normal' to the GSW, (and maybe NBA). People outside the NBA sees the sucker punch like WTF.

    2. Draymond's contract negotiation. His leverage gone out the window. Man fumbled his next bag.

    3. How refs officiate Draymond in future games. He already walked a fine line between playing 'scrappy' vs playing dirty. No doubt the refs has seen the viral clip and might subconsciously be biased in the future. Is Green a loose canon. If things heat up in a game, does the ref dispense a tech sooner than later; throw him out of a game before situation escalates.
     
  5. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    98,874
    Likes Received:
    48,792
    Yup he isn't good enough IMO as a player, he is an excellent leader when his head is on straight but he is too unpredictable and emotional.
     
  6. i3artow i3aller

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2008
    Messages:
    20,163
    Likes Received:
    37,882
  7. tksense

    tksense Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    227
    Remember, someone FROM the org leaked this, and it took two days, so that someone must have spent enough time to thoroughly consider the positives. Or it could be from a low-ranking staff who sold out and never cared about any consequences?

    Agree Green sucker punch is much worse, with vicious intention.

    Does "discipline internally" always sound like "go easy and sweep under the rug" for outsiders? Is it safe to assume internal discipline can never be as fair as public discipline?
     
    Yung-T and foh like this.
  8. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,443
    Likes Received:
    65,158
  9. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    38,080
    Likes Received:
    29,501
    So the correct reaction to a shove is a punch. Got it!
     
  10. hk_prometheus

    hk_prometheus Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2022
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    61
    I'm gonna go with Scott Foster
     
  11. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    113,898
    Likes Received:
    175,205
  12. MorningZippo

    MorningZippo Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,310
    Likes Received:
    2,590
    "Internal discipline" is a hall mark of virtually every corrupt organization throughout history.
     
  13. MorningZippo

    MorningZippo Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,310
    Likes Received:
    2,590
    If Green wasn't born tall and athletic, he'd be working at McDonald's. Dumb as a box of rocks and emotionally mature as an 8th grade girl.
     
  14. JumpMan

    JumpMan Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Messages:
    8,516
    Likes Received:
    4,919
    Not sure if he's actually dumb or if his immaturity makes him appear dumb, but he'd probably be in prison because he can't control his emotions.
     
    MorningZippo and Plowman like this.
  15. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    29,889
    Likes Received:
    20,033
    If he wasn't born tall and athletic he wouldn't be this immature cuz he'd get the **** beaten out of him every time he acted up.
     
    MorningZippo likes this.
  16. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2003
    Messages:
    36,768
    Likes Received:
    35,603
    He won't be protected forever.
     
  17. i3artow i3aller

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2008
    Messages:
    20,163
    Likes Received:
    37,882
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    #539 i3artow i3aller, Oct 12, 2022
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2022
    BigM likes this.
  18. JumpMan

    JumpMan Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Messages:
    8,516
    Likes Received:
    4,919
    Someone here said he would lose protection once he isn't useful anymore to the Warriors.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now