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Are we still the "United" States of America?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Sep 5, 2022.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    I was discussing this with someone in Minnesota that Texas is very unlikely to secede. None of the major cities in Texas will go along with it.

    We are divided but the divisions are less along state lines but urban rural and cultural split. Consider there are probably more similarities in culture and attitudes if you live inside Nashville with Madison, WI and Portland than there will be a few miles out of those metro areas. This is also why we’ve got situations like WI and NC, states with Democratic governor and a swing state in presidential elections yet dominated by GOP state legislatures.

    The Urban Rural split is going to make secession movements very hard so a war between the states is very unlikely. If we have civil war it will likely look like a lot of Jan. 6th, George Floyd Riots, OK Cities, and Wacos. It will be major civil disturbances, terrorist attacks and small armed groups.
     
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    It's going to be a lot of random street battles between proud boy types and antifa basically.

    You are going to see a lot more dudes in plate carriers open carrying marching in formation in some random suburb or city street. You are going to see right and left wing "patrols" from non governmental extremists.
     
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    Exactly. And on another front there is ALOT of power that the cities have if a state was to secede. There's no reason why a city like Houston couldn't just say we are voting to become a district in the USA like DC, and unless the state governor/new president of Texas wants to rule with an iron first, and use the state military to hold the city hostage, if Houston wanted out, they've got the power to eventually do that. Then can you imagine the COUNTRY OF TEXAS' economy if they lose Houston? Especially if they created a land bridge with Galveston county. Imagine the trade industry, and the energy infrastructure. What a mess the country of Texas would be in.

    Given the power of the cities in a state like Texas, eventually it's going to be a very Democratic leaning country anyways. It just won't have the a military at the scale of the US to defend itself and will be at the mercy of the US anyways for reliance on many many things.
     
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    The United States is more like siblings than a married couple.

    Historically speaking, the USA has been more divided than united.

    Even the founding of the country was divided between loyalists and patriots.

    The country was then divided on whether the federal government or states should have more power.

    Then there was the Civil War..... divisions before WWI over whether the US should ever even enter a war.

    There were Civil Rights divisions that continue to this day.

    The USA has always been conflicted.
     
  5. rhino17

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    Anything east of Colorado is what I'm referring to.
     
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    Divided we stand, united we fall. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?
     
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    Jefferson v Hamilton was largely uncivil up until the latter was killed in a duel.

    That ideological debate is more emblematic of where we are now compared to the North South divide even if Hamilton largely won.

    Today it really is neighbor vs neighbor, so before any talk of secession or fragmentation, we'll have civil unrest and worse to "settle" the regional debates...
     
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    Try vaping weed or eating at McDonald’s in Russia breh
     
  9. tinman

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    Can fat people stand on rope?
     
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    Sure if it's on the ground.
     
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    Texas seceding is always funny to me…TX is nothing without Houston, Austin, and Dallas

    it would be an irrelevant flyover state comparable to Mississippi and Alabama

    Ted Cruz and the rest of em would never live in a place like Lubbock
     
  12. tinman

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    What is the fat person identified themselves as skinny ?
    Would the rope break?
    If the fat person falls, would the fat person blame it on the rope? Or itself?
     
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    People like Ted Cruz, Abbot and others are not serious about secession. They know it won’t happen and if it did likely not end up well for Texas.
     
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    Interesting about our country's "Nine Nations."
     
  15. tinman

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    Top Gun Maverick

    A story about an old fighter AMERICAN pilot dude beat THANOS
    @Jontro

    America has answered Frodo Baggins

    [​IMG]
     
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    7 nations

     
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    Yes, we're more united than we used be; everyone just couldn't relay their honest opinions and values to each other from across the entire continent. We also didn't have working police forces and domestically deployed military in every city, county and state; knowing you can't just kill people you don't like before skipping town afterwards helps condition law-abiding, rules-conscious Americans to question the root causes of sectarian, religious or racial violence and self-sabotage their own prejudices.
     
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    Huh. Okay then. But what part of Colorado? That's just nothing but a square on a map. And what part of the "West", and what part of the "East"?
     
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    It cannot ever happen, but it's fun to listen to those types of people talk about it.

    What ever happened to Rick Perry, btw?
     
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    when you have a country that's so diverse and full of different thinking and opinion, it's not easy to be united.
     

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