[ClutchFans] Houston Rockets Prospects Power Rankings – Volume 1

You could easily observe if Jokic can win a championship, sometimes all the flashiness still doesn't end up with silverware. It takes a lot to win.

 

It all depends if Green is a 1 or 2 on a championship team and if they need a 1 or Harden's corpse comes back.

 

Are you kidding me? Josh Christopher is number 7! SEVEN! This is an outrage! He is clearly the number one prospect in the entire NBA. SNUBBED! TRAVESTY! You will find me protesting outside of the Clutchfans headquarters! (does anyone know where that is?)

 

I do not agree with your rankings. I think you haven't given enough consideration for a number of our players'
I suggest you look at my list......
Starters
Porter
Green
Eason
Smith
Sengun

2nd team
Washington
Christopher
Martin
Tate
Fernando

Extra players

Matthews
Gordon
Newba
Hudgins (2 WAY)
NIX,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Y

 

Green doesn't look like a one. He seems to be a pure scorer. I think the team wants him to be that guy.

If the KPJ experiment fails, and Sengun doesn't turn into Baby Jokic, then they probably will look into the lesser prospect like Nix and TyTy, or trade for a good veteran PG with our draft assets.

 

Spoiler

You're welcome.

 

I think it's way too early to say what Green won't be.

 

Agreed that we can't say for sure Green won't be. But he doesn't not look like he is a natural playmaker. So he will have to develop something that is not yet in his bag, much like what they asked KPJ to do. That's fine down the road. But for now, I want to see Green concentrated on being the aggressive scorer and making play when the situation calls for it rather than being forced into the playmaker role.

 

I don't think he needs to have a playmaking role, but when you look at the greats - the generally do everything well for the most part. They can break down defenses, pass, score, defend, get rebounds, get steals. They can do everything well and they excel at multiple things. So Green doesn't need to be a playmaker, but he needs to be able to do it in certain situations. I think he'll have that in his bag over the course of time.

 

This!!!! I’ve been trying to make this point for a while. Sengun is a hard piece to fit in bc everything has to run through him. If he doesn’t hit a jokic level, then he won’t be good enough to run things through. Just look at Sabonis

 

Tari Eason over Alperen Sengun, eh?

Tari Eason is over a year older, and quite simply not as good at basketball.

 

If we are talking about sample size, how about 72 games in the nba for Sengun vs 0 for Eason?

Also if we are judging Eason based on summerleague, we also have Sengun’s summer league sample from last year where he was as good if not better…while being a full two and a half years younger. “Baffling” is the only correct word.

 

Alperen, Kpjr, and Josh aren't getting the love they should be.

 

I am perplexed that we are still talking about one or two playmaking roles.

The balls moves from one side to the other, every player is involved. Some of those players have the ball more in their hands than others and that's about that.

Green has to start taking more responsibilities that is what a natural leader does, encourage the team when it is losing.

 

For simplicity's sake, let's say there are two types of play making. The traditional so-called "pass first" type. These players look to set up the offense, get his teammates involved, and only look to score when the defense gives him the opening. Guys like Nash and CP3 are the best of this type in recent history.

The other type is the scorer-playmaker. These guys look to score and are also adept in drawing the defense and then dishing to open teammates. Harden and Doncic are that kind of play maker.

We don't have the first type. Maybe you can say Sengun is that. KPJ and Green have a chance to develop into the second type. But that's not really easy. It took Harden several years to be great at it. I don't expect either Green or KPJ can master that in a year or two. It took Green half a season just to get his scoring rhythm. If you ask Green to be the kind of scorer-playmaker now, it may mess up his scoring efficiency. Do we really want that? I'd much rather he organically develop that over the years.

You can't just pass the ball around and say whoever is open shoots. That's not going to work in the NBA. Last season was kind of like that and everybody is calling for Silas's head. This is not the YMCA or summer league. You need some kind of structure to maximize the players' strengths.

 

Green was not my first draft choice so I am not going into the territory of demanding something big out his playmaking when it is clearly not his forte.

Now what you touched on in your last paragraph that is exactly what Silas is going for..
MDA and Silas who are not the kind of coaches that press you into a tight system or at least it is free flowing and you wonder who is accountable at the end.

Unless we get a decent veteran playmaker or what you called 'scorer playmaker' you are not going to see Playoff style basketball for a while. Easy as that.

We had our chance at John Wall and surely we did not take it.

I mean there are only so many that are better at playmaking than Wall and they come at a price. Maybe Jrue Holiday falls into our lap. Sarcastically.

Now we see some Eric Gordon, KPJ and Green making a run at it.

 

KPJ is getting more than he deserves because of you clowns.

 

I know I will get flamed by this. MDA's system is "give the ball to the playmaker and let him create." He had two successful stints in the NBA, Phoenix and Houston. Both times he had a great playmaker handling the job. Other times, he didn't get much results. (The only exception is that short stretch called Linsanity in New York. In those few weeks, Lin looked like a great scorer playmaker.)

If Silas is going that route, we are looking to tank for a long time because we don't have that guy--unless if we get Scoot Henderson. Another way to do it is the Adelman model. We have Sengun who can initiate from the high post. But that system needs a lot of time to develop. And it requires a bunch of smart players who can read and react. I actually hope that the Rockets will run that kind of system eventually.

 

Jokic might look like he exploded on the scene to casuals, but the reality is it took VERY high dedication from the front office to get a lineup that allowed him to get the reps in.

I doubt our front office has that foresight. Our fans certainly don't.

 

MDA is the Zen Version, Silas is just an apprentice IMO, a marginal NBA coach but he believes in a similar philosophy.

I do think Silas is young enough to implement an even better defensive system while at his height
MDA's O is hard to be challenged.

Agreed that Silas might compromise and use the Princeton's......

BTW I think MDA got more than give it to the PG, but it looks like that because he is so dependent on a PG, in New York he let David Lee and Carmelo go to work.