1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Twins @ Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Aug 23, 2022.

  1. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    18,457
    Likes Received:
    14,666
    Stephen66 and Joshfast like this.
  2. Willy92683

    Willy92683 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    776
    He's been used out of the bullpen on occasion for long relief in Sugar Land this year, so it won't be new to him.
     
  3. Squirtle

    Squirtle Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    2,151
    Likes Received:
    2,044
  4. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    An OPS of 150 or more is excellent and 125 very good, while an OPS of 75 or below is poor.

    .340 OBP is solid, .360 is very good, and significantly higher than .360 is great, with an on base percentage of .400 or higher being generally exceptional.

    Both are significantly down from last year for Yuli.
     
  5. Tomstro

    Tomstro Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2016
    Messages:
    26,173
    Likes Received:
    23,216
    you are giving him OPS+ examples, not OPS.

    A solid OPS starts at .800 or so. As a guide, you want your 1st baseman to achieve at least that number in regular OPS. .780 is probably bare minimum for a hitting position like 1b.
     
  6. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,782
    Likes Received:
    11,081
    I can do this:
    Bundy is a RH who has a FB @only 7% in MLB avg velocity. 50% fastballs, 41.7% breaking balls, and 8.3% change ups. He is a pitcher who does not Strikeout or walk many and allows more flyback balls than ground balls.

    I would classify him as a finess, flyball pitcher.

    1) CF: both Meyers and Dubon have OPS well below .600 vs both RHP and finess pitchers. That means Chas plays CF.

    2) with Chas in CF that means Yordan in LF, Mancini DH, and Yuli at 1B.

    Yuli is better vs RH finess pitchers than either Meyers or Dubon.

    3) while Vazquez is simply a better hitter than Maldy in general, I still advocate a 67%/33% split in Maldy's favor due to intangibles.

    However Vazquez kills fly ball (.784 OPS) and finess (.860 OPS) pitchers so this match up is too good to sit him.

    Lineup:
    Altuve 2B
    Gurriel1B
    Alvarez LF
    Bregman 3B
    Tucker RF
    Mancini DH
    Vazquez C
    Pena SS
    McCormick CF.

    Let's see how Dusty does
     
    Tomstro likes this.
  7. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,782
    Likes Received:
    11,081
    You may be a bit high there.

    Pena has an OPS of 708 and according to Baseball Reference is exactly league average 100 OPS+.

    But I agree your 1B should be well above average, not .677 where Yuli is. ( FYI Mancini is .741)
     
  8. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    26,416
    Likes Received:
    16,753
    It depends on season and position. League averages are 0.312 and 0.707 this year. I'd consider good to be 0.330 and 0.750, respectively and without regard to position.

    Tucker, Alvarez, Bregman, Altuve, Brantley would grade out better than good by my standard for OPS. Chas, Vasquez, and Mancini as good for the season. Diaz and Pena around league averages. Other Astros with more than 100 PAs are below average by OBP and OPS for the season.

    Gurriel did have a couple of months of average to above average OBP, OPS in June and July.
     
    #368 Joe Joe, Aug 24, 2022
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2022
    Squirtle likes this.
  9. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    Mancini in LF. love it

     
    King1 and Clutch City1993 like this.
  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    22,805
    Likes Received:
    12,571
    So you are cherry picking 3 weeks? Everyone goes through slumps. Do you know had a worse OPS than Yuli for the same period. I'll give you a hint. He's a MVP candidate and should win a silver slugger award.
     
  11. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    18,457
    Likes Received:
    14,666
    Not cherry picking, just what he has done the most recently. And sure, he isn't alone in having a down August.
     
    #371 jim1961, Aug 24, 2022
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2022
  12. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    13,058
    Likes Received:
    8,363
    Astros with their beat record after 124 games: 79-45.

    What is Dusty doing? He should be better! Mancini and Vazquez everyday in every way!

    :):):eek::D:cool::p
     
    rockbox and jim1961 like this.
  13. the shark

    the shark Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2010
    Messages:
    5,017
    Likes Received:
    4,527
    Do you know how many players have an OPS above .800 right now in both leagues? Forty.

    Above .800 isn't just solid it's d@mn good.
     
  14. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,782
    Likes Received:
    11,081
    Magic number 27 ( vs Mariners) for ALW division
    5 eliminates A's
    13 eliminates Angels
    17 eliminates Rangers.

    If the Astros go 19-19 the rest of way the Mariners will need to go 32-7 to win.

    Magic number 35 ( vs Yankmees) for best record in AL.

    I love this time of year.
     
    Clutch City1993 likes this.
  15. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    23,983
    Likes Received:
    14,659
    Surprised we aren't seeing Hensley
     
  16. solid

    solid Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2001
    Messages:
    21,220
    Likes Received:
    9,057
    I guess Vasquez will pitch hit if needed. I wish he was starting. Pitchers probably prefer certain catchers like Verlander.
     
  17. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2006
    Messages:
    4,401
    Likes Received:
    6,189
    Surprised we are seeing Mancini :eek::eek::eek:
     
  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    36,288
    Likes Received:
    26,645
    Based on Baker's history, that surprises you?
     
  19. DaChamp

    DaChamp Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2014
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    142
    I was about to post the same thing. OPS above .800 is typically all star level. I'd say a "good" OPS is over .700, but under .800.
     
    the shark likes this.
  20. Squirtle

    Squirtle Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    2,151
    Likes Received:
    2,044
    Thanks for the explanation!
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now