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To extend KPJ or not?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lachard Binkley, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    It's always such a productive discussion when 2 parties of directly contradictory perspectives of the topic, each with zero intention of ever changing their opinions,try to argue with each other. :D
     
  2. DatRocketFan

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    My stance isn't even about kpj value at least when talking to jiggly.

    The Dude is making sht speculations about a team that doesn't even have the asset to do what he's trying to sell.

    Kpj is worth a late first round pick, and Lakers r willing to trade for him = "evidence/speculation" kpj at least worth that much.

    Fails to realize the only picks Lakers have are basically lottery bound. Gets offended when Gets called out for the sht speculation. It's not even two contradictory view point, it's just me pointing out a poster making dumb sht up to push his stance
     
  3. clutchdabear

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    i've put him on ignore for awhile - from all his anti-jalen green/pro mobley, anti-jabari smith/pro banchero stance... and then to idolize kpj of all players... can't deal with dumbshit posters like that or you'll just end up losing brain cells yourself
     
  4. Verbal Christ

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    This is a poignant socio thought experiment at its core that sort of captures the overall vibe in society. Bully or get bullied. People that need to add monikers to those whom they disagree with like fanboy, idiot, moron, idolizer etc is cringe and honestly low brow for this place ...yet when they get called a "hater" they lose it and get offended! Insults do indeed become the weapon of the loser when confronted with a logical opposition and yet somehow the narcissism remains to tout their own precious mental capacities being reduced? Such a beautiful irony! Seems as if though you have to be more and more shocking in your takes in order to stand out! :rolleyes:

    Shoutout to all the guys on the fence or with serious doubt that were able to make their impression felt without insecure quips. Preciate ya!
     
  5. D-rock

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    Not a lot of anti-Jabari Smith posters on CF to be honest.

    Bari just should not be that divisive.

    Rockets chose the best remaining player at #3.
     
  6. Reeko

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    I for one am loving the logic of bringing up players on bad value deals as justification for what we should be paying our players…it’s a very convincing and well thought out argument
     
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    KPJ's fans might be worse than Lindsay. At least that was a cultural and not a stupidity thing
     
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    Of the three, Jabari was the one I liked least ..... But I'm still happy with the pick. We didn't have a shot at the other two. Hard to be upset with the best player on the board when you pick.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    This is exactly my take, I wanted Chet first, then Banchero and would settle for Jabari.....

    We got the 3rd player in the draft, the NBA once again got it right.


    DD
     
  10. Believe It!

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    You may be right on this. Will have to see what they look like in yr 3, 4 and 5 to know for sure. Either way.. just glad we got one of the Big 3.
     
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  11. DaDakota

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    It is ok though, Jabari fits perfectly.....right now he is Robert Horry, if he learns to dribble and create he will be a great player if not still a very good one that fits.

    DD
     
  12. Believe It!

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    Love BSB, but this seems an awful lot like J Green is C Brewer to me. But hey it's your opinion.
     
  13. Rokman

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    Especially when you are still able to get Eason at #17 and he's playing like HE should have gone #3.
     
  14. King1

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    He's always wrong so we're in good shape
     
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  15. DatRocketFan

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    Typical jiggly after getting dumpster on about his stance he slinks away to a different thread to type his nonsense stance.

    Kpj could b worth a late first round pick but the Lakers with lebron aren't trading for him.
     
  16. Verbal Christ

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    KPJ going into his 4th year.

    Here's somebody, who peaked at his 4th year, got a decent bump in stats and thus a pay day.

    2005 1st year - 13.0 pts, 70% FT, 50.3% eFG, 32.7% 3p $2.4 mil
    2006 2nd year - 11.8 pts, 82.0% FT, 50.8% eFG, 32.7% 3p $2.5 mil
    2007 3rd year - 11.7 pts, 78.3% FT, 46.9% eFG, 32.7% 3p $2.7 mil

    #anomaly contract year
    2008 4th year - 16.2 pts, 83.8% FT, 48.8 eFG, 34.5% 3p $3.4 mil

    # (got himself a big contract. Decent coin for a starter role player at the time)

    2009 5th year - 11.9 pts, 81.5% FT, 49.9 eFG, 35.1% 3p $6.5 mil
    2010 6th year - 11.1 pts $7.2 mil
    2011 7th year - 7.0 pts $6.1 mil
    2012 8th year - 6.8 pts $8.1 mil
    2013 9th year - 4.6 pts $8.6 mil
    2014 10th year - 6.3 pts
    2015 11th year - 5.1 pts

    Career: 10.4 pts, 77.2% FT, 49.4% eFG, 34.1% 3p

    # Player's growth trajectory is not always linear.
    # Part of the issue was how long that contract was, even when his production fizzled.

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    :eek:
     
  19. TimDuncanDonaut

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    Me running away before the KPJ fans come after me. :D
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  20. chenjy9

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    If he wants more than $15M per, I certainly hope Stone dumps him.
     
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