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Breaking: FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. DatRocketFan

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    Stop trying to convince Republicans folks anything. They have a PhD on mental gymnastics
     
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    Hunter's abandoned crack pipe=stealing and possibly selling information on the nation's nuclear weaponry. Thanks for putting that into perspective.
     
  4. ROXRAN

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    I care about perspective, this is how we understand those that may think differently. I’m not saying he’s right..heck if he followed NARA procedure to the letter, he would have avoided this. But we know Trump is not politically savvy he’s business smart to some degree and probably narcissistic and selfish to other degrees.

    But having said that we know he probably sees Obama’s presidential records sitting in a temporary warehouse in Chicago with the approved process for it to be eventually digitalized , And I can understand someone in that situation saying hey I want my records at a secure warehouse as well and what better place than a “safe room” at Mar-A-Lago

    So the question is did Trump receive archive approval as a temporary warehouse? Was Trump in negotiation with the coordination of how these records would be preserved in that manner? What is the only issue classified reports? You can be a history college graduate and not have the answers that are privy to government discussions between Trump and the national archives. We don’t know exactly what was said and what was allowed and maybe we should have some answers from the national archives… maybe they should be the next one to be transparent on this matter
     
  5. CCorn

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    Yes. But allowing women to make decisions about their body is much worse than selling nuclear information to Russia China or the Saudis
     
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  6. Astrodome

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    I didn't hear them advocating violence or stalking.

    I was hoping trump wouldn't run but it seems like garland has ensured a run. His base is fired up. At least we dodged a Merrick supreme ct bullet.
     
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    Probably? Haha.

    OK, I can maybe understand that if the documents we are talking about were of a similar nature. The indications at this point is they were not, but instead were sensitive, classified documents that he shouldn’t have kept with him in the first place and which should have been turned over by subpoena a month ago.

    We don’t know yet what the nature of these documents were. Do we give the benefit of the doubt to Trump or the Garland-led DOJ? I guess that’s where we are at now. I’m willing to wait and see how this unfolds, but as of now I know who I trust more.
     
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    Except for the fact that an unprecedented subpoena and search took place.

    No, no, no. Not at all. The only coordination is where the library will be, when it can accommodate NARA staff and records, and who the first director of the presidential library should be. There is no agreement about how records will be preserved or who owns the records because that is already settled under law. In Obama's case, there are digital records that NARA will preserve and there are paper records that NARA will preserve. The Obama library wanted to digitize the paper records so researchers could have digital and remote access to all records without visiting a physical site. All the records, paper or electronic, are still preserved and stored under NARA oversight.

    And really, we're sitting here comparing Obama and Trump and wondering whether Trump could have been a little confused about the whole thing? Please. Trump does not care about historians and their research or the public access to information. If those records were allowed to stay in MAL, they would be lost to both the public and history.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    stop making excuses you are embarassing yourself.

    DD
     
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    I’m not making excuses. If a report is to look for something that may be there that doesn’t mean it’s actually there that’s truth no excuses…I could say I am looking in a trashcan for the winning lottery numbers But that doesn’t mean that statement proves winning lottery numbers are in the trashcan
     
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    It's doubtful that he received any of that stuff. The DOJ personally went down to Mar-a-Lago and met with them to explain what they needed and why. It didn't work. They issued a Subpoena, and that didn't work. They finally sought and obtained a warrant. The whole process has been going on since January.
     
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  12. DatRocketFan

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    Let's just wait and see. The warrants is gonna b unsealed. I can't wait to see what sht is gonna be spun up next by some folks on here when it comes to defending trump
     
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    Thanks for the congrats, but it was a lifetime ago. And I have to say, I don't think you completely understand. This has nothing to do with Obama and no reasonable person would look at how ex-President's Obama presidential records were handled and decide it's OK to take classified records to MAL. Certainly not any competent lawyer. There is no legally valid reason they should be there, and there is no legally plausible reason they should be there. None. The fact that he had to be asked to add a lock after a subpoena and after a visit by a DOJ official in charge of counterintelligence does not help your point.
     
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  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Garland didn't ensure a run. Trump was going to run no matter what. It has nothing to do with Garland. Nor will his running stop anything Garland is doing.
     
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    Trump reportedly had nuclear weapons documents just chilling at the house, and we really had idiots trying to convince the mindless drones that Trump just took some memorabilia from the White House because he’s a collector

    I gotta post this again

     
  16. ROXRAN

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    I don’t think Trump would have ran if he wasn’t prodded I really think this is probably calculated where the Democrats want Trump to run rather than DeSantis because Trump is not as politically savvy as DeSantis …OK I’m joke in there but you know that did cross my mind
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm not sure how any of this prods Trump to run. It doesn't protect him from prosecution. He's been holding rallies before any of this.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Dude, they were looking for Nuclear weapons documents, why would Trump even have those?

    Don't forget this came from an inside source, from him ignoring a subpoena, and from a judge saying yep, go get em....

    And Feds have a 99% conviction rate.

    Trump is ****ed -- and our country rejoices.

    DD
     
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  20. Reeko

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    they'll say the documents were planted by the deep state and the judge that approved the warrant is a Clinton and Obama plant...because of that, it is now time for the mayo militia to exit mom's basement and engage in civil war

    there's already been 1 casualty of war with that idiot who stormed the FBI building
     
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