The state of the democratic party

The Democratic Party is the party of loneliness.

 

So now if you are unmarried you are lonely?

Or if you are married you can't be lonely?

Makes total sense.

 

For all the **** that the rest of the world AND Americans like to talk about the failings of the USA, this is largely true.

Not good examples really.

A white man that was the son of one of the richest men in NY and was worth hundreds of million before he ran for President? Seems like he came from the right seed.

Joe Biden? A life long politician who's father was an Executive at Standard Oil? The man that got financing for his law firm from a client of his dad?

Nah, it shouldn't be shocking that either is President.

It has happened a number of times. There was Nixon/Ford/Carter not that long ago.

That goes for everything in life.

There is no Obama without the authoritarianism of the Bush administration.

There is no Trump without the over confidence of the Obama administration.

There is no Biden without the corruption and unhinged Trump administration.

We can play this game for every administration going back some years.

We got Trump for a lot of reasons...... one of the largest being that outside of Obama the democratic leadership was very old and dated. It beat Trump when I doubt Sanders would have, but be careful with what you want.

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Republicans have an older voting bloc and older people are more likely to be married.

It's interesting I suppose but it certainly isn't surprising.

 

Build back better late than never. And Mitch and the boys got owned.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/29/manchin-drug-energy-bill-still-democrat/

Opinion
Joe Manchin shocks Republicans by revealing he is a Democrat
By Dana Milbank

The news hit like a thunderclap this week. Joe Manchin is … a Democrat?

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) turned with fury on the centrist senator from West Virginia. “It was obviously a double-cross by Joe Manchin,” he declared on Fox News. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) alleged “bad faith.” Rep. Kevin Brady (Tex.), the top Republican on the Ways and Means committee, perceived “deceit.”

What terrible thing had Manchin done to deserve such howls of betrayal from Republicans? Well, it seems Manchin, the Republicans’ formerly favorite Democrat, had dared to act like a Democrat.

Manchin agreed with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) on legislation lowering prescription drug prices and providing renewable energy incentives, paid for by cracking down on large, tax-dodging corporations. After two years of Manchin’s resistance to such a deal, Republicans had come to believe he would never agree (though he never said as much). So when he did, they lashed out with self-destructive rage.

Forty-one Senate Republicans blocked a bill that would help veterans who had been exposed to toxic burn pits — even though 25 of the 41 had previously supported a nearly identical bill. In the House, GOP leaders fought to defeat a bipartisan agreement helping U.S. semiconductor chip makers compete against China, getting all but 24 House Republicans to vote against the bill. Now, Senate Republicans are saying that because of pique over Manchin’s actions, a bipartisan effort to codify marriage equality might be doomed.

Democrats, by contrast, showed rare unity, with the party’s woke wing heaping praise on the Manchin-negotiated energy and prescription drug bill. Rep. Pramila Jayapal (Wash.), head of the Progressive Caucus, called it a “very, very major step forward.”

The episode is a key reminder that the supposed “polarization” in American politics is not symmetrical. Democrats, after a long struggle, are finally making a bid to hold the political center. They’ve reached near universal agreement on a bill that pays down debt, makes medicine cheaper, eliminates unfair tax breaks for the biggest corporations and the richest one-tenth of 1 percent, and implements an all-of-the-above energy policy that streamlines drilling permits while accelerating the switch to clean energy. And Republicans responded by voting against veterans and U.S. manufacturing.

Manchin, no partisan, scolded Republicans for “basically holding the veterans hostage because they’re mad.” He added: “My Republicans friends … get wrapped up in thinking ‘Well, we’ve got to be against something because it might make the other side look good.’ ”

The West Virginia senator has been a huge irritant to his fellow Democrats (he says he’s been “ostracized” and “victimized”), but he is at core an old-school populist. Democrats were tempted to drum him out of the party over his refusal to abolish the filibuster, which stymied President Biden’s agenda. But there have been considerable benefits in maintaining some semblance of a big tent.

Manchin backed Democrats’ coronavirus relief bill, was a key figure in negotiating the bipartisan infrastructure bill, attempted (but failed) to win Republican support for a voting rights package, helped to enact bipartisan gun safety legislation, and is on the cusp of securing bipartisan passage of Electoral Count Act reform to avoid a recurrence of Jan. 6. And now he has shocked everybody with his support for the clean energy and prescription drug package.

Selling his agreement to his constituents in Trump country during an interview on Thursday with West Virginia’s MetroNews, Manchin struck a populist note worthy of Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Manchin called it “ridiculous” to say the bill is a tax hike. “There were some very, very large corporations that could basically take advantage of the tax code and pay nothing. I didn’t think that was fair, and I think most Americans don’t think that’s fair,” Manchin said. “They are paying for the ability to be in this country, with the defense we have, the protections we have, and the opportunities. And they don’t want to participate? I want them to come forward. Tell me who you are.”

Asked to respond to Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell’s claim that the Manchin bill amounts to “giant tax hikes” that will “kill many thousands of American jobs,” Manchin replied: “That’s just a shame.” Manchin said he worked with Republicans in the past on similar energy bills, “and now you’ve got a chance to get it and you’re going to boo-hoo it?” The longtime broker of bipartisan deals said of Republicans: “This is a bill we would have worked on in a bipartisan effort if we could’ve, but they can’t.”

Or, more accurately, they won’t.

Manchin, no doubt, has given his fellow Democrats fits for two years. But in one sense, he is very much one of them: He still wants to get things done. In the current American political system, only one side is even trying.

 

Nixon was hugely popular and won in an electoral landslide (he lost one state). He just (for some unfathomable reason) cheated and got caught. Prior to the Watergate scandal, he was very popular across the board.

 

When he left office his approval rating was one of the lowest recorded.

 

Yes, hence why I said things like "Prior to the Watergate scandal" and "cheated and got caught". When elected (which was the context) he was hugely popular. Ford was never elected. Carter beat Ford. So to say (in response to the claim that America elected two of the most unpopular presidents in history back-to-back) that Nixon/Ford/Carter happened, is a bit off. Nixon won in an electoral landslide, Ford was never elected, and Carter beat Ford because of the stink of Nixon and Watergate. That would be the election of one unpopular candidate. Just a different way of looking at it perhaps.

 

I don’t think that was the context, or at least that is not how I took it. I assumed (and maybe I shouldn’t have) he meant their popularity during their term in office. If he meant at the point they were actually elected or came into office then I would agree with you.

 

I know this is a really unpopular opinion and would not get much democratic support but I would vote for Manchin as president, he has a great macro view and understands what works for both sides, and is not afraid to say no when he thinks it's called for.

He has a ton of experience and is not that old and he knows how to and when to pull out his bag of tricks.

I know he would never get the nomination but I think he would be a great president.

 

Almost 40% Of Democrat Voters Say Democrats Have ‘Run The Economy Into The Ground’

A new poll from Rasmussen has found that a majority of voters agree that Democrats ran the economy “straight into the ground,” with close to a whopping 40 percent of Democrat voters agreeing that is the case.

The poll found that 85 percent of Republicans at least somewhat agree with the statement made by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell that “Democrats inherited an economy that was primed for an historic comeback, and promptly ran it straight into the ground.”

But the most startling finding is that a majority of 57 percent of unaffiliated voters agree, and even 38% of Democratic voters agree with 23% who ‘Strongly Agree’.



The poll also found that a majority of 62 percent believe the United States economy is in a recession, despite desperate Democrat efforts to redefine what that means, with just 23 percent saying they don’t think there is currently recession.

Almost half (47 percent) of Democrat voters also said they believe the economy is in a recession.

 

Senate Democrats have reached an accord on eleventh-hour changes to their top-priority economic legislation, they announced late Thursday, clearing a major hurdle to moving the measure through the chamber in coming days.

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., a centrist who was seen as the pivotal vote, said in a statement that she had agreed to changes in the measure’s tax and energy provisions and was ready to “move forward” on the bill.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said lawmakers had achieved a compromise “that I believe will receive the support” of all Democrats in the chamber. His party needs unanimity to move the measure through the 50-50 Senate, along with Vice President Kamala Harris’ tie-breaking vote.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats considered reshaping proposed taxes on the wealthy and huge corporations, and possibly adding billions for the West’s historic drought, as lawmakers aimed for initial votes Saturday on the party’s economic legislation.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced his timetable Thursday as party leaders worked behind the scenes in hopes of winning the unanimity they will need to succeed.

The election-year bill, housing President Joe Biden’s and congressional Democrats’ top priorities, would provide hundreds of billions in spending and tax credits to spur clean energy, reinforce fossil fuels and renew government support for people buying private health insurance. It would raise revenue with tax boosts, beefed up IRS tax collections and curbs on drug prices, which would save money for the government and patients.

“We prioritize the middle class and working families, instead of those at the very top. God bless them, they’re doing fine,” Schumer said.

 

528K job and 3.5% unemployment with a game changer bill about to pass.

Not a bad week for Brandon.

 

and gas prices coming down and a vote in Kansas for the pro choice movement, alex jones gets called out for the whack job he is, not a bad week at all. Next week we get the Fulton County prosecutor to start hammering down on Rudy and hopefully Graham..............not to shabby for a lame duck prez and the right fighting everything tooth and nail and ramping up its lie machine

 

Biden administration: We are trying to kill job growth and increase unemployment to fight inflation

Democrats: Great job Brandon! more jobs and lower unemployment. I dont know what statistics are, but number go up is good!

Everyone else: Inflation is out of control!

 

Are you talking about the fed increasing interest rates??

Keep in mind Jerome Powell runs the Fed and is a stone cold Republican. Also I and others on the left don’t necessarily agree with jacking up rates this fast because I personally think they are mostly focused on slowing down the housing price surge. There’s also some troubling figures coming from the auto industry about the increase in auto debt in such a short period of time.

So the Fed is basically trying to intervene as middle America’s Dave Ramsey. It’s a slap on the wrist from dad when their kids spend too much at the mall of their own allowance. There’s no evidence that the inflation figures are not solved by global supply issues sorting themselves out. Mostly because of pandemic issues.

So the idea that Biden is controlling the Fed isn’t exactly correct, and fair. If Biden was strong arming the Fed then I would assume you’d criticize that as autocratic. You also cannot just offer a blanket criticism of Democrat voters like me just blindly supporting the Feds actions just because they technically operate under a Democratic president.

 

The president appoints the Fed Chair and the Senate confirms. Biden just reappointed him. Powells political leanings have little to do with this. Powell is doing what he said he would do before he was appointed. There are absolutely no surprises here. If you disagree with Powell, you disagree with Biden.

The reality is there is no clear cut answer to why we are seeing high inflation numbers. For those who are not deeply entrenched in team political warfare, the leading belief is a massive out of control credit bubble coupled with a lower market labor participation. This is a global phenomenon. If 1 million people decide they no longer want to work, that 500k new jobs claim is largely skewed. This is why you can't go around claiming 500k new jobs is some great accomplishment. The quickest way out of this mess is a very harsh recession.

We are currently in a stagflation environment. This is actually worse than a recession if it persists. Wages need to keep up or exceed inflation. In stagflation, people who have hard assets (debt in which the asset appreciates) and little to no debt debt that depreciates ( auto's, credit cards, ect) fair much better. This is a terrible time to rent and have debt payments.

Also, the bond market drives home mortgage rates more than the fed rate.

 

revionist history on your part.

his moniker, "Tricky Dick" was well deserved. tricky dick had a history of cutting corners.
Watergate followed a pattern of cutting corners thru out his life.. http://www.californiascapitol.com/2011/11/how-tricky-dick-nixon-became-tricky-dick/

you need to stop lying

Tricky Dick was VPOTUS for 8 yrs, and he could not beat the junior senator from Mass for the presidency.
after which, he then ran for the Governor in his home state, Calif, and was soundly defeated by Jerry Brown's father.
that prompted Nixon to call a press conference, announcing that he was done w politics,

w the concluding comment "you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around any more"'' ​