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Lina Hidalgo's Self-Absorption

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, Feb 3, 2022.

  1. Commodore

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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So... you're agreeing with her that potentially re-auditing the 2020 results is a complete waste of time?

    Or, do you think 2020 results should continue to be audited even though the myriad of audits have shown absolutely nothing?
     
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    And those posters are perplexed why Jan 6th hearings are important.


    It seems like America now will terminally just not have elections with no definitive winners again because now the GOP has learned they can just claim "fraud" any time they want and effectively convince 2/5ths of the population.

    Expect more election related violence as time moves forward in this country.
     
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    I don't think hildslgo makes herself look good here. There may not be many populous counties but they drive election results. Imagine doing an audit of only tiny counties that would make no difference in an election anyway. Also, Harris county managed to miss the deadline for turning in results, so they would invite scrutiny even if it wasn't random.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Do you think it is cost effective that even though Harris County already had an audit of the 2020 election, they may be subjected to another one?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the process of choosing counties is supposed to be random. Harris County has been chosen twice in a a row.
     
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    2020 results should continue to be audited
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    And they have already been audited in Harris county. How many times must they be audited? Even an incredibly biased, partisan group (Cyber Ninjas) found no wide spread fraud in Arizona.

    Things aren't going to change. All of the battleground states conducted audits and nothing of significance changed. What magic is going to happen years later. Get over it...Trump lost.
     
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    It is supposed to audit the last two years. If 2020 has already been audited, they might be able to put more effort into the other ones.

    I know audits have been used recently as a form of harassment. But apart from the bother, audits are good things. Having routine audits of elections is good.

    No, the first one was not random. Trump asked for it. The second one is random. And I guess this what's annoying about Hildalgo's tweet is that she is engaging in conspiracy thinking, insinuating that republicans drew a frozen envelope to persecute democrats. It's just an audit. Suck it up.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I'm not arguing that audits are bad, but continuing to audit the same results isn't a good use of time or money and continues to fuel the questioning of elections.

    It's not that hard to say (once the audit is complete and results are confirmed) "since Harris County was randomly chosen AND has already had their 2020 results audited, there will be no need to audit 2020 again, especially considering there were no abnormalities found. Their results were solid. "

    Going forward the law should be amended such that any county that had their previous election results already audited should not be subjected to further audits of that election year.
     
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    It is an automatic audit process dictated by statute and probably doesn't allow the latitude to say you're going to skip this year. I wouldn't want them to have that latitude either, because you could bury a crooked election thereby.

    And again, the 2020 election isn't the only one we had in the last two years. Those other elections have not been audited so far as I know.
     
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    Well, that's stupid. Why would your randomized audit choose the same county twice for the same audit? It's not that hard to prevent that. This is what gives gov the image of being inefficient and wasteful and it's totally preventable. Just exclude counties that have already been audited from your randomized list. It's literally a few lines of code.

    Remember that each county audit can cost TX taxpayers tens of millions of dollars. A statewide audit can cost $250M.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    That doesn't change my argument. If an election has already been audited, why should it be subject to another audit?
     
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    Its a stupid law driven by Trump's conspiracy that led to Jan 6. You're right about the choosing of counties however you need to keep in my mind what the big picture is. The law was instituted in 2021. Any criticism of its stupidity is valid
     
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    delete
     
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    There is a law that says 4 counties shall be audited. Our name was pulled. We should be audited. Is it wasteful and inefficient? Of course. That's government. But did the Sec of State pick Harris county on purpose? I doubt it. Given that we have been audited, it probably makes more sense for an election denier to want an audit in Dallas or Bexar or Travis.

    Besides, the 2020 election was audited but the 2022 midterms will also be audited. Hopefully even the 2020 election will be faster and easier to audit since the work has already been done. But mostly they are just whining because they want me to think something nefarious was done when it wasn't. They passed a law that scrutinizes election results. That's fine.

    Sure, it was passed to cast doubt on the election and support the narrative that democrats are cheating. But so long as auditors aren't fixing elections, it's fine.
     
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    she does make a good point about the 2 of 4 counties chosen being above 300K. more than the envelope that's her criticism.
     
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    Jeez, Abbott and Patrick have painted a target on Hidalgo from the get-go.

    And no, the audit thing isn't random.
     
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    until when?

    and really, why bother? Is there any audit result that could convince you the 2020 election was not stolen? Of course not.

    moron.
     
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  20. JuanValdez

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    She says both. I don't mind her having an opinion on the audit law. I objected to her insinuation there was corruption with no evidence. This ain't the Trump party. But it is tempting for all humans to indulge in conspiracy theory.
     

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