How the are the Warriors rebuilding while winning chips?

to put it simply, steve kerr is le goat

 

No one looks as good when they can no longer play with a superstar, especially one who's very presence makes everyone else's jobs easier like Curry.

But people are ignoring that, aside from Poole, Golden State's "young players" are very young..like Moody and Kuminga are 19 and already held their own last season in bit parts. Wiseman, who knows, but it's way too early to write him off considering how little basketball he's been able to play since high school (only partially due to injury). The main thing is that all these guys are being trained up in the perfect environment--they have guys like Curry and Green to teach them the right habits, they're being coached by a superb coaching staff and they're being immersed in a winning culture.

Obviously, they likely aren't going to be another dynasty--those are historically rare and based around a singular figure (Russell, Magic, Jordan, Duncan, Curry, etc), but I wouldn't be surprised if they emerge from the Curry era with a very good team. Which would be bonkers, as teams usually crater once their win-now championship run ends.

 

I believe Durant got them DLo which they traded to Min for a picked that turned into a lotto pick

Curry & Klay were both out a season & triple single Green led them to another top pick

Imagine if the picked LaMelo

 

It's a perfect storm of everyone performing well in their role on top of insane good fortune in other ways.

Steph/Klay/Dray And Coach/GM/Owner have all exceeded expectations. It's just hating to say otherwise.

But, they were also able to keep everyone together with Steph on the cheap deal due to early career injuries. Then, the TV deal leading to KD coming. And, on top of all that they're in a destination city that role players are willing to take a discount to play at.

 

Yes, your last point is true. However, Houston can also be a destination city, they are as big a market as San Francisco/Oakland. All they need is a good ownership group. The Warriors were never considered a destination city back when they had bad owners.

 

Their young core isn't really that impressive. None of them looks like franchise cornerstone. They may be nice third or fourth bananas on a good team. When Steph, Klay, and Draymond are done, they'll be a mediocre team, unless they can attract some big fish free agents.

 

Meh. Not really sure they are that good in terms of player development during the Kerr era. Obviously Steph, Klay, and Draymond.. but that was also before Kerr even got there. All their other picks since Kerr? Other than Looney and Jordan Poole, everyone else has been pretty bad to really bad (granted many of those until the past few years were late first round picks but Spurs were able to consistently hit on players who could contribute during their runs).

As for Wiseman - like you said, he's played very little basketball - in fact, he first picked up basketball sometime in high school because someone told him he was tall and he should play, not because he was naturally drawn to the game. And then he didn't play basically his whole freshman year in Memphis, then has barely played in the NBA due to being so raw but also because of injuries. Truth is, he lost his most important developmental years these past 3-4 years and it's going to be really difficult for him to be anything more than a project because of that going forward.

Kuminga has all the athletic ability in the world, but he too is raw as hell, and his IQ and understanding of the game is JLin levels of low, not to mention his ugly broken jumpshot. I really don't see it with that guy no matter what people say.

Jordan Poole is going to be a restricted free agent next year and is gonna command big bucks. Unless they do something with one of Wiggins/Draymond/Klay and cut salary somehow, there is no way they can retain him. And if they extend the window for the Curry/Klay/Draymond core, then that luxury repeater tax is going to be hell to deal with.

I admit I'm biased as hell because I hate GSW more than any team in sports history and want that team to fail for the next 100 years - but I find it really hard to give them so much credit when they benefitted from: 1) a lot of luck, 2) Adam Silver and Scott Foster, and 3) an owner who was willing to spend 3 to 4 times more than any other owner in the league. Without any one of those 3 and we wouldn't be talking about them like this. They don't have some magical formula or some amazing coaching/player development staff.

 

You're forgetting players like Wiggins and Payton who, while not developed from the jump by the Warriors, show evidence of smart coaching getting the most out of players. I don't think it's at all a stretch to suggest that if Wiggins or Payton had been drafted by this coaching staff, they would have been even better off.

And while the "big three" were on the roster before Kerr got there, at least two of them bore little resemblance to their post-2013 selves. Curry went from "fun, exciting player to watch" to two-time MVP and inner circle Hall of Famer. Draymond Green was a bench player with little role and then became a generational defender and a key to unlocking the Warriors' movement offense from the power forward position.

I wouldn't say that was all Kerr--Curry probably would have shone through to some extent no matter the coach. But I think Kerr, as is the case with great coaches, put these guys in the best position to succeed. That's why I say that Kuminga, Wiseman and Moody are in an ideal situation--we can debate their talent level or skillset, but I think they're going to be used as optimally as possible, giving them their highest chance to become something.

 

also a good homecourt advantage helps tremendously...players play and develop better when they have fans cheering for them frantically...

oth when you play in empty toyota centre i surely dont expect these players to develop, or want to become better and hustle like the one playing in front of the full cheering crowd of the chase centre

 

how come the russel trade was insane?

havent they got an allstar guard in exchange for a maxed overpaid bust in andrew wiggins?

 

Forgot dlo was an all star. And Wiggins was an all star this year

and not making the playoffs two straight years got them 3 lottery picks

 

Kerr's system gave other players room to play in a team concept where they got fed and could grow confident enough for the playoffs.

I still can't believe how a bum like Looney impacted game 6 and 7 but it wasn't a one off thing.

MDAs system otoh, let four other players turn on the ignition while running idle until the last minute. As for that 65 win year...the buy in with Ariza, Tuck and CP3 forced unselfish play... at the defensive end. Didn't really repeat that edge the year after. No Ariza, and Prince was too busted to keep.

I guess Iggy, Klay and Dray were their cornerstones for D that time but the ball movement Murry and Mike shunned obviously made a difference for GS, much like the fundamentals Pop preached.

 

Don't get your hopes up.

The Bay area is just generally considered a more fun place to be amongst nba players (and most young adults in general). Good ownership did help then win more games which increased their chances of getting good free agents. Really, only the Lakers in LA are a strong enough pull to get players to come when they don't have any sort of foundation built.

On the bright side Houston isn't on the list of cities players activelt avoid like Salt Lake or Milwaukee.

 

who cares

 

Very interesting, thanks. Really highlights the 3PT revolution the NBA has gone through.

 

I could see why Bob Myers may want to leave. Tough, tough decisions ahead.