Ron Artest was a multi-dimensional offensive player the proto point forward Rodman was nothing like that. Now I will say that he probably would be Draymond like in today's game he had some playmaker in him as a secondary guy that probably would have been more developed in today's game.
Ron Artest was nowhere near a "multi-dimensonal" offensive player lol. He was good at getting his numbers and defense...but he was well known for his defensive skills and was pretty average, at best on offense. More to the point though, both Ben Wallace and Rodman would absolute start.
All I said was that we should prepare for those premature quips about "shoulda coulda woulda" ... we went through that garbage for most of the year last season with Jalen. Im not doing that with intent. Im supporting Jabari 100% and want him to be successful out of the gate and for the most part I think he will be. I want him to be a "superstar" in his finished form, but he has some work to do in order to get there. He's a dog and I dont doubt that he will put in the work necessary.
LOL You don't have a clue what Artest was as a player he was multi-dimensional as an offensive player. Ben Wallace would definitely not start on a contending team he was not a great perimeter defender. I already said Rodman would probably start.
Jabari looks like a future star to me. Green has an IT factor that I thought was abundantly clear even in the early going. It just took some time to bloom. Smith has many of the same traits.
Lol are you even old enoigh to remember Artest? Did you watch him play here? Or are you just cherry picking stats
There is no comp in the league today for someone who is arguably the best defender and rebounder in league history. It's laughable to say someone who is arguably the best ever at 2 of the 4 aspects of basketball couldn't play today.
Looking back at the videos, Jabari's offense actually looks quite similar to Artest's. Artest didn't look like he had exceptional handles. He mostly took one or two dribbles before shooting. When he attacked the basket, he mostly went straight line.
Artest actually had pretty underrated handles. His dribbling ability was good enough to recover loose balls and kick off a fast break. Where Artest was lacking was finesse in how he utilized his dribbles, meaning he didn't even attempt to avoid people usually and chose to simply run through them by leveraging his (for much of his career) unmatched combination of strength and speed. He was the perfect example of "bull in a china shop".
Maybe it's just visual. Apart from a few crossovers, his dribbling looked mechanical, not very fluid like those good ball handlers. Agreed that his strength and speed gave him the ability to just run through people, kind of like what Giannis does.
How many flat earth dribbles does it take to cut to the basket without the ball and be the recipient of a Sengun over the shoulder pass?