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Kerry whines and makes more promises he can't keep

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Faos, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. Faos

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    Good to see he's on the whining bandwage about the 2000 election vote count. He also plans to graduate 1 million more students...unfortunately it'll take him more than four years.

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/2653941

    CHICAGO -- Seeking support from minority voters, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry pledged Tuesday to expand educational opportunity and see that 1 million more students graduate college during his first five years in office.

    Kerry's education plan has a particular emphasis on supporting minority enrollment in college through scholarships, mentoring and tutoring programs and other incentives.

    He told the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition that although college graduates will earn $900,000 more over their careers, less than a third of all Americans and less than a fifth of black Americans have a four-year degree.

    "My friends, we can't rest until all Americans, and I mean all Americans, white and black, rich and poor, people of all colors and all backgrounds, truly have the opportunity they need to make the American dream real," Kerry told the convention of the civil rights group.

    Turning out minority voters is essential if Kerry is going to win the election against President Bush. Blacks voted for Al Gore over George Bush 9-to-1 in 2000, while two-thirds of Hispanics supported Gore. Among whites alone, Bush won 54 percent to 42 percent.

    Kerry has been criticized for failing to connect with blacks the way Bill Clinton could. But he roused the largely black audience at the Rainbow-PUSH Coalition convention on Tuesday, frequently straying from his prepared text to toss out lines that would rev up the crowd. In the tradition of the famously long-winded Clinton, he spoke for nearly an hour.

    "Don't tell us that it's the best we can do with the last election when 2 million votes weren't even counted," Kerry said, taking up the cry of those who felt disenfranchised when Bush won in 2000.

    Jesse Jackson, head of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, introduced Kerry and reminded the audience not just to judge him by his Ivy League pedigree. Yale may have produced Bush and conservative Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Jackson said, but also Bill and Hillary Clinton as well as Kerry.

    "Yale is not all bad," Jackson teased. "Its reputation's being soiled."

    Besides his education plan, Kerry promised to make health care affordable for all, make America energy independent, build a strong military, create good paying jobs, enforce trade agreements and fight for the right of workers to organize.

    "I'm weary about standing up in front of you because I know there's a cynicism," Kerry said.

    "I know you're tired of the words. I got into this because we were all touched by those early years, by President Kennedy, by Martin Luther King, by the dream, by the possibilities of individuals making a difference in the lives of other people."
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Yeah if there's one thing I hate it's when politicians whine about people wrongfully kept from voting. If a group of people who aren't really felons are labeled as felons and aren't allowed to have their vote count, nobody should complain at all. They should smile and say thank you.
     
  3. Rocketman95

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    Are you saying that Kerry is the only politician to make promises for things beyond his presidency?

    Candidates always talk in terms that if they win, they win until they can't anymore.

    Will you criticize Bush for talking about things he will do next year...promises he may not be able to keep?
     
  4. Faos

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    You mean those absentee ballots from our soldiers overseas? Gore supporters continue to forget to mention those.
     
  5. Faos

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    It seemed to me that he had all the answers already. If it's going to take him more than one term to get people to graduate how long is it going to take him to get a handle on terrorism, the most important issue, imo?
     
  6. RocketMan Tex

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    Those, as well as the 55,000 that "didn't count" in Florida.

    If you are going to count the votes, count them all....soldiers overseas and minorities in Florida. Count each vote, each vote counts.

    Or don't you believe that, Faos?
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    I mean anyone who was wrongfully kept from voting. For the record Gore was not against all overseas votes being discounted. There were a siginificant number which were not dated before the deadline. Gore did try and have those not counted. All others that were postmarked before the deadline Gore did not try and discount.

    I think overseas military, and anyone else who didnt' have their votes counted should be allowed to complain.
     
  8. KingCheetah

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    Good to see he's on the whining bandwage about the 2000 election vote count. He also plans to greaduate 1 million more students...unfortunately it'll take him more than four years.
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    Oh faosso you are quite silly.

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  9. Faos

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    That's sad. I fixed it...thanks. :)
     
  10. dc rock

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    From some of the quotes printed it seems like Kerry gave a good speech. Thanks for posting this, buddy.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    Well, Bush hasn't gotten a handle on terrorism in his term, so who knows?
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    I like Faos. I really do. But is there anything more propagandist on this site than his thread titles? I mean this guy takes the already biased, sensationalist headlines Drudge invents and blows them up even bigger. By now it's a sure bet that his threads won't even resemble their titles.

    On to the content. Here Faos bashes Kerry for "making promises he can't keep" because he talks about what he'll do in his first five years. Every single presidential candidate in modern history has repeatedly talked about what he'd do in his two terms in office. This is among Faos's greatest paper tigers and that is truly saying something.

    As for the "whining," no serious person will tell you there weren't votes that went uncounted. If you call caring about that whining, you are anti-democracy by definition.
     
  13. GladiatoRowdy

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    That IS the most important issue and GWB has made the problem WORSE, not better.

    I agree with Kerry here in that we should do everything possible to assure that every single person in this country who is serious about getting an education has that opportunity. This statement shows a great deal of leadership and vision and is yet one more great reason to vote for Kerry in the upcoming election.

    Thanks for supporting Kerry, Faos!
     
  14. RocketMan Tex

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    Bush promised to be a "uniter, not a divider". I don't see Faos bashing Bush for dividing us even further than we were in 2000.
     
  15. Faos

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    How can you really know that?

    Who's to say what may have happened had Bush responded to things in another way or the way Kerry would? There is no real way to answer that.
     
  16. Faos

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    Hey, it's you guys who are choosing not to unite.

    You guys are a bunch of non-uniters.
     
  17. Rocketman95

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    Yeah, let's unite everyone by amending our Constitution saying a segment of society can't do what the rest of us can. That's some down home unitin' right there, boy!
     

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