1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

  2. LIVE WATCH EVENT
    Where will the Houston Rockets pick in the 2024 NBA Draft? We're watching the NBA Draft Lottery results live on Sunday, with the room discussion starting at 1:30pm CT. Come join us!

    NBA Draft Lottery - LIVE!

[2022 NBA Draft/1-3] Jabari Smith Jr., F, Auburn

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 23, 2022.

?

Do you like the selection of Jabari Smith?

Poll closed Jun 23, 2023.
  1. YES

    89.7%
  2. NO

    10.3%
  1. DreamShook

    DreamShook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    70,846
    Likes Received:
    114,874
    sounds like silas is just going to stick jabari in the corner and not use his skills effectively. Silas better be trying to use Jabari like KG or Lamarcus Aldridge. I need some turnaround elbow jumpers too; some pick and pops. Instead he will treat him like a decoy ray allen.

    I know he is your guy @Reeko, but i have no faith.
     
    CircaSurvive, RasaqBoi and cheke64 like this.
  2. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    45,942
    Likes Received:
    127,970
    he’ll start out slow and then blow up like Jalen Green…by March we’ll be seeing turnaround fadeaways
     
    Drift Monkey, bcast89 and DreamShook like this.
  3. RasaqBoi

    RasaqBoi Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    17,079
    Likes Received:
    20,704
    Silas won’t be a head coach again after this gig.
     
  4. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    45,942
    Likes Received:
    127,970
    because he’ll be moved into a FO role…Silas here for life
     
    RasaqBoi likes this.
  5. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Yes, Embid does have a great handle its not even up for debate.
    Thompson was not a very bad ball handler and his dribble package was better than Smith's.

    Kawai also had better handles you can see it in their college highlights.

    The same for Rip, you are just making **** up know.
     
  6. Spooner

    Spooner Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    2,803
    Anyone watching magic kings? Banchero’s defense looks pretty good. 3 steals already in first 5 minutes as well as completely locking up Murray on a few possessions. Looks very quick laterally.
     
  7. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Kawhi had a more developed dribble game it was not great but it was better than 2 dribbles and he could counter.

    Klay had an average dribble package and he could also counter.

    The biggest issue with Smith is going to be finishing which both Kawhi and Klay were good at if he can finish better he can get away with a power dribble like Kawhi.

    I saw some dribble stuff that I had not seen at Auburn and he displayed a better touch finishing which was an improvement, he will benefit from more spacing creating more driving lanes which will unlock some more facets of his game.

    I was surprised by his passing nothing great but he showed more vision than I suspected.
     
    Hakeemtheking likes this.
  8. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    This is rookie year Klay, we really need to stop comparing the 2, he had advanced handles even better than I remembered



    Smith also does not catch and shoot as quickly as Klay or off the move like Klay.



    Here is Klay in college he has a much more advanced dribble he can actually use his left hand.



    I think some people are underrating what Klay offers offensively and how diversified his game is.
     
    #1288 jiggyfly, Jul 9, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2022
    Yung-T likes this.
  9. Yung-T

    Yung-T Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    24,403
    Likes Received:
    7,048
    Yea I never get the comparisons honestly, same with ppl saying he's like Aldridge or KD coming out of college, who both already had a pretty complete post game.
    And now he also has a "Giannis frame in the making" and will grow to 7ft and bulky.

    People are trying way too much to talk stuff up that just isn't there yet, it's fine to just see Jabari for what he currently is.
     
    xtruroyaltyx and jiggyfly like this.
  10. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 1999
    Messages:
    45,199
    Likes Received:
    31,169
    So now he's going to have Giannis' body with Klay's shooting to go with Kawhi's defense. Forget basketball GOAT. This man will be a basketball GOD.
     
    jiggyfly and Yung-T like this.
  11. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    What does him having to be the primary facilitator have to do with anything?

    Nobody has ever said he would be the primary facilitator and nobody has called him a point forward but point forwards don't have to be the primary facilitator anyway just players that can initiate the offense for stretches at a time or exploit mismatches.

    You said he would not average 3 or 4 assists a game but he had 6 in a summer league game already there is no reason he can't do the same in the NBA and none of the guys you named are what is considered a primary facilitator either they are more scoring guards and none of them are better playmakers than Banchero.

    You are creating a strawman to say people are claiming he will be the primary facilitator.
     
  12. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,481
    Likes Received:
    20,056
    You are putting words in my mouth. I have never said he would average 3 or 4. Why do you always have to lie to converse?
    I have said he won’t average 6/7 assists or anywhere close to 9/10 like Luka and Lebron. (Guys you and a few others compare him to)

    Stop lying
     
    Drift Monkey likes this.
  13. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 1999
    Messages:
    45,199
    Likes Received:
    31,169
    I mentioned this in the NBA Forum thread, and I'm not watching him in this game, but noticed that at the half he had 0 rebounds. Same in the previous game vs. the Rockets. It's the summer league, so maybe they're telling him to focus on certain aspects of the game, but still seems weird.
     
  14. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    No, I am not lying and you know it and nobody has said he is going to be on the level of Luka and Lebron as a playmaker, 2 of the all-time great passers in the NBA.

    That's the reason I said 1.0

    It's very telling that your benchmark is now 2 off the all-time greats:rolleyes:

    It's not much different from 4 assists to 6 anyway and he is the best playmaker currently on that team, if he can get 6 assists in Summer league he can get 6 with better talent around him.

    I have no idea what they will ask him to do but it's not a stretch to think he will not ONE of the primary facilitators on that team since they don't have a natural playmaker currently.

    Cole Anthony averaged 5.7 assists I think they will be within 1 assist of each other and will not be surprised if Banchero leads in assists.
     
  15. bmd

    bmd Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    7,747
    Likes Received:
    3,517
    Jabari seems more like prime Ryan Anderson on offense than Klay Thompson or KD. Which isn’t a knock. Ryan Anderson was a 16 to 20 ppg scorer and a sniper. His issue was defense. Anderson’s offense with elite defense is an all-star.

    But that’s right now. He just turned 19. He’s 6 months younger than Banchero and a year younger than Holmgren. He’s only 7 months older than LeBron was when he was drafted out of high school. He’s got a ton of time to improve.
     
    #1295 bmd, Jul 9, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2022
    Drift Monkey and xtruroyaltyx like this.
  16. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,899
    Likes Received:
    36,766
    Guys let's wait like a full NBA season before we put a cap on a 19 year old's ceiling.

    Is that really too much to ask?
     
  17. Spooner

    Spooner Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    8,039
    Likes Received:
    2,803
     
    DreamShook likes this.
  18. xaos

    xaos Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2015
    Messages:
    6,205
    Likes Received:
    15,503
    For real
     
    Drift Monkey likes this.
  19. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    50,214
    Likes Received:
    40,933
    We should at the very least wait until they play an NBA game.

    Summerleague has a history of not meaning ****.

    I mean last year Green looked like the next Kobe in summerleague then when he hit the NBA it took months for him to adjust to NBA level talent and competitiveness.

    The guys Paolo, Chet, Jabari, are going up against are fringe NBA guys and a lot of the ball isn't structured and there is nothing at stake here.

    I've seen nothing from Paolo, Chet, or Jabari that has changed my mind of them as prospects yet. Their question marks have yet to be answered and their strengths have been displayed, nothing left to do now but see them against their actual peers.
     
  20. DreamShook

    DreamShook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    70,846
    Likes Received:
    114,874
    the thing is he will start out slow BECAUSE of Silas doing silly stuff. Just like Jalen.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now