Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

Lib temper tantrum because they got dupped again

 

If he grabbed the wheel, then he should he charged. Are they calling the other witnesses to confirm her account? I was unable to watch yesterday as Serena was playing at Wimbledon.

 

grabbing or not is unimportant wrt to prosecution

 

The Case for Prosecuting Donald Trump Just Got Much Stronger
New testimony may have produced a smoking gun.

I confess that I’ve been skeptical that the January 6 committee would produce evidence that Donald Trump was directly criminally responsible for the attack on the Capitol. Certainly he was morally and politically responsible. There’s no credible argument that a mob would have stormed the Capitol if he had the basic decency to concede a race he clearly lost.

At the same time, it’s legally quite difficult to hold a politician responsible for the violence of his followers. The First Amendment is broadly protective even of political speech that outright advocates violence. There is (rightly) a very high constitutional barrier to criminally prosecuting any person for allegedly inciting violence. After all, the primary responsibility for a riot rests with the rioters—in the absence of direct command authority (like a general commands his troops), nobody can make a person riot.

Before today, I’ve been open to the possibility that Donald Trump’s speech and conduct on and before January 6 criminally incited the mob. I was open, but unconvinced. I spoke to a number of leading First Amendment experts, and they were even less open than me. Yes, Trump urged the mob to “fight like hell” and march on the Capitol, but he also said they should “peacefully and patriotically” make their voices heard. That caveat was likely enough to spare him from prosecution.

That was yesterday’s analysis. Today’s is different. Because of a courageous woman named Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Mark Meadows.

Earlier this afternoon she gave the most extraordinary congressional testimony I’ve ever seen.
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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-case-for-prosecuting-donald-trump

 

For what crime? Her account wasn't that it happened. It was what she was told.

The charges Trump faces don't really have much if anything to do with grabbing the wheel.

 

What is Jan. 6 witness Cassidy Hutchinson's background?


IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

• Cassidy Hutchinson got a job at the White House shortly after college and became a close aide to Mark Meadows, President Donald Trump’s chief of staff.
  
  
• Those who knew Hutchinson in the White House said that she was Meadows’ “right hand woman” and traveled with him on Air Force One and to meetings on the Hill.
  
  
• Hutchinson previously interned for Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., before being hired by the White House.
  

https://www.politifact.com/article/...kground/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

 

Is it a crime to act like a child as the sitting President? I did not think so.

 

Right leaning editorial board

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/trump-proven-unfit-for-power-again


EDITORIALS
Trump proven unfit for power again


In short, Hutchinson was a conservative Trumpist true believer and a tremendously credible one at that. She did not overstate things, did not seem to be seeking attention, and was very precise about how and why she knew what she related and about which testimony was firsthand and which was secondhand but able to be corroborated.

What Hutchinson relayed was disturbing. She gave believable accounts of White House awareness that the planned Jan. 6 rally could turn violent. She repeated testimony that Trump not only knew that then-Vice President Mike Pence’s life had been credibly threatened that day but also that he was somewhere between uncaring and actually approving of Pence’s danger.

She also told, in detail, that Trump repeatedly insisted that he himself should join his supporters at the Capitol — even after being informed the crowd contained armed elements and that it was breaching the perimeter against an undermanned U.S. Capitol Police force.

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Hutchinson’s testimony confirmed a damning portrayal of Trump as unstable, unmoored, and absolutely heedless of his sworn duty to effectuate a peaceful transition of presidential power. Considering the entirety of her testimony, it is unsurprising that Hutchinson said she heard serious discussions of Cabinet members invoking the 25th Amendment that would have at least temporarily evicted Trump from office.

Trump is a disgrace.

 

So she was a Ted Never Trumper Cruz plant? It is all becoming clear. Cruz made his move.

 

Cassidy Hutchinson’s Testimony Highlights Legal Risks for Trump


It was one of the most dramatic moments in a presentation filled with them: Just before President Donald J. Trump went onstage near the White House last year and urged his supporters to “fight like hell” and march on the Capitol, an aide testified on Tuesday, he was told that some of them were armed.

It was also a potentially consequential moment for any prosecution of Mr. Trump, legal experts said. Knowing that his crowd of supporters had the means to be violent when he exhorted them to march to the Capitol — and declared that he wanted to go with them — could nudge Mr. Trump closer to facing criminal charges, legal experts said.


“This really moved the ball significantly, even though there is still a long way to go,” said Renato Mariotti, a legal analyst and former federal prosecutor in Illinois.


The extent to which the Justice Department’s expanding criminal inquiry is focused on Mr. Trump remains unclear. But the revelations in the testimony to the House select committee by Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide, both provided new evidence about Mr. Trump’s activities before the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol and chipped away at any potential defense that he was merely expressing well-founded views about election fraud.

“There’s still a lot of uncertainty about the question of criminal intent when it comes to a president, but what just happened changed my bottom line,” said Alan Rozenshtein, a former Justice Department official who teaches at the University of Minnesota Law School. “I have gone from Trump is less than likely to be charged to he is more than likely to be charged.”

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“We’re going to get charged with every crime imaginable,” Mr. Cipollone said, by Ms. Hutchinson’s account.

One of the crimes Mr. Cipollone was concerned about, Ms. Hutchinson recounted, was the same one the committee had accused Mr. Trump of committing in a court filing this spring: the obstruction of a congressional proceeding — namely, the certification of the Electoral College vote inside the Capitol on Jan. 6.

A federal judge in a civil suit related to the House committee’s work also concluded this year that Mr. Trump and one of his legal advisers, John Eastman, most likely had committed felonies, including obstructing the work of Congress and conspiring to defraud the United States, through their efforts to block certification of the Electoral College results.

According to Ms. Hutchinson, another potential crime that worried Mr. Cipollone was incitement to riot. That offense, while simpler in theory than obstruction, requires prosecutors to reach a high threshold of evidence and prove that a defendant’s words presented an immediate threat of lawlessness or danger.

Some legal scholars said Ms. Hutchinson’s testimony made the best case to date that Mr. Trump had in fact incited the crowd.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/us/politics/trump-legal-risk-jan-6.html

 

Reckless conduct

 

Sure. I don't know how easy it is to retroactively prosecute that and it is also small fries in the line of charges Trump might face.

 

It was painfully obvious from the day he decided to ran that he was unfit for office. Lindsey Graham, Cruz, Rubio all of them knew it.

 

While the grabbing the wheel incident is salacious it’s actually not one of the more important parts of Hutchinson’s testimony. Personally given that it was her relating a story she heard from someone else I wouldn’t have even included it.

What is far more important is that the President wanted security reduced for a rally and. March where he was told that there were weapons. Ws that he and his chief of staff refused to act when his VP and members of Congress were being threatened.

 

In what way?
Please Point to any evidence that contradicts any of Central points learned in theae hearings.

No journalist has done it, and no poster on this board has done it. Please share why you believe Libs were duped.

Or not even the Libs but Trump loyalists

 

Trump > Steven Seagal + Matt Damon. Trump is the 1990s action hero we needed but didn’t deserve

 

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Dear Trumpers: the wheel grabbing plot point is not the McGuffin you are hoping for that’ll distract and discredit January 6th. Everything isn’t just going away if you create a McGuffin you hope can turn out to not be true.