ESPN News: Ford Reports Snow May be Traded to Houston

Remember that next year JJ won't be the only guy expected to drain some 3's. I expect McGrady/Boki/JJ/and Pike, if he is still around, to get their fair share of open 3's.

However, if we are still in need of a "3 point specialist" then the top 3 players with the best 3 point shooting percentage are available as FA. Anthony Peeler, who is #1, is a FA as is #2 Brent Barry, and #3 Brian Cardinal. Also, don't forget that Tyronne Lue, while he looks like Michael Jacksons illegitimate child, does hit around 38% from beyond the arch.

 

I second that. Fuggetabout Snow. Sign a FA point and do something to get that guy in here.

 

Thomas joked about offering Sheed MLE, $6.9M is a lot more than MLE. But yeah, Sheed can get a lot more.

How about we find a partner that can offer Sheed more money but want Boki, Gaines, JJ, and then work out a sign and trade to get Sheed for TE, one player, and then a future pick. That will be great. And then we use the MLE to get Barry. It will be a perfect offseason!

 

I don't think Eric Snow fit this team better than Fisher. Remember, Snow have never played with a big man where as Fisher have. Snow will not make team pay for doubling Yao and McGrady...he ain't a good shooter and he's getting old. On the other hand, Fisher WILL NO DOUBT make them pay if they leave him open.

I like that Snow play defense and pass the ball and penetrating...but the Rox offense do not need much of penetration from the PG....it just need a PG to dump the ball into the big man and stay behind prepare to drain open shots. Eric Snow does not fit that bill...i don't see him hitting shots consistently as oppose to Fisher.

 

I think we could get him here, but if we agree to take Snow. But like I said, if CD could pull that off then we'd still have the MLE, and have our backup C issue solved. Then we could use the MLE on Barry too, haha.

PG: Snow- Good perimeter defender/JVG type point
SG: Barry- Three point specialist/slasher
SF: McGrady- All World
PF: Howard- Solid big man/decent rebounder
C: Ming- See McGrady

Then you'd have three above average 3 point shooters off the bench in JJ/Boki/ and Lue. Plus, depending on if we trade Taylor or not you'd have low-post scoring & a defensive minded C in Dalembert.

 

Ok i just checked out Eric Snow stats through his career....the guy absolutely CAN NOT shoot 3 at all.....20% or below...my goodness...Rox don't need that type of player. They need good shooters to surround Yao and McGrady. Brent Barry or Fisher. It's got to be Fisher since Barry is old....33 or something already.

 

Scary thought of having Snow, But i'll rather have Fisher!

 

Kobe had a wanna be Jordan mentality and personality, and then you have Shaq "I am God and deserve all" O'neal.

T-mac has a Pippen thing going, with a bit of Clyde I'd say.

And Yao is more versatile than Shaq, more humble, more skilled.

When will those Laker comparison's stop?

 

Sorry guys....but I have to disagree on this.

I do like Fisher. If we can get him. Do it. But if we had to choose. I would rather get Snow as our PG.

Snow is my choice...
He's a 10+ PPG point guard w/7 APG. He can distribute the ball. He can hit the mid-range shot. And he CAN improve at the 3 (with Yao/McGrady being doubled). Fisher is a good shooter as long as he has the players around him (Shaq/Kobe). But you have to give this advantage to Snow as well (Yao/McGrady). It goes both ways. Lets be fair.

I also like the size of Snow; he's a big/strong PG. Snow is a better passer/assist man. He could do some pretty nice things on the fast break with McGrady and JJ. Imagine that!

Neither guard is sloppy. But Snow just seems like a better "over-all point guard."

2002-03 (Fisher's Full Season to be fair):
Snow: 12.9 ppg (.452FG%) /6.6 apg/2.37 TOPG
Fisher: 10.5 ppg (.437FG%)/3.6 apg/1.15 TOPG

Snow's best assist season(s) were 1999 thru 2001:
He averaged 7.5 apg over two seasons.

Note that we are after a POINT GUARD. Not just a 3 point shooter. We can bring in someone like Padget, JJ or Rush (FA?) to be our 3-point setup men. I'm not saying that 3pt shooting isn't important from our point. But not at the expense of other point guard skills.

Lets not get mesmerized by a single stat. Lets look at the whole player.

This doesnt' mean that I don't like Fish. I do! But I just like what Snow gives us a little more in "over-all PG production."

If I could pick any PG....it would be Hinrich, Nash or Arroyo! Those are my tops PG.


P.S. Age? Fisher was born in 1974 (30). Snow was born in 1973 (31).

 

Fisher - Snow- Berry...WHO KNOWS

but I must say... isn't this a NICE PROBLEM TO HAVE

 

So, then it's mechanics? Alright, well I'll just have to take your word for it then. As for the 45%, I was just exaggerating on your point that Snow could go from 11-26 3pt% to a respectable 36-37% by just 'intense repetitiveness'.

But, alright. I really haven't seen much of Snow's mechanics to really gather the optimism of improvement you have for em. So, like I said, I'll take your word for it.

I'd still prefer Fish though.

 

With a power forward rotation of Howard, Mo Taylor, Spoon, we really need a no bull-**** hardnosed backup center that can bump with Shaq when Yaos in foul troule and deliver some hard fouls.

Any thoughts on who this might be?

 

Snow is a good PG but can't shoot worth a lick. He's often left open on the outside cuz no one cares if he shoots. That's going to hurt a team that will throw it down low to Yao or have Tmac slashing through the lane. I think a combination of Lue and Gaines may be adequate.

The Rockets really need another big man to backup Yao. Howard played some at center but is more of a PF.

 

Sign Keon Clark and Brent barry and were fully set!

 

Snow, at 31, has five years left on his contract.

 

The most important thing in a PG that the Rockets need is someone who runs the team well within a system, get others organized properly and getting the ball to them in the proper placement (call this "Priority A").

Secondary factors are:
-ability to play man/team defense "Priority B1"
-ability the stretch the defense with the 3 ball 'Priority B2"
-scoring efficiency (factor in shot selection, fouls) "Priority B3"

Snow is a 10 in priority A, 8 or 9 in priority B1, 0 in priority B2 and 6 in Priority B3.

Fisher is a 7 in priority A (he doesn't really organize the Lakers but plays off others), 6 or 7 in priority B, 5 or 6 in priority B2 and B3 assuming last year was an anomale.

I like Snow (he can't hit 3s, but he can nail them from 17 feet when left alone) for what he would bring (and we have Lue who is a good 3 shooter), if we could at a minimum dump Spoon's contract for him we could strike a deal. But no way for the trade exemption, he does have a bad contract.


Snow and McKie for Spoon and the TE works for me too.

 

I would much rather get fisher. He does everything Snow does but actually can hit 3s and we know he can hit clutch shots

 

No he doesn't. He isn't quite as tough/physical, is not as good from the field inside the arc (finishing, mid range) and hasn't had organize a team like Snow has.

Fisher does have the 3 ball on him, but that is it. Both guys are seasoned and composed (clutch).

Still don't want Snow unless we can dump a contract or get other compensation (1st rounder) because of his salary though.

 

I was ok with this trade, but now that I sit and think about it...


I'd much rather save the TE for Brent Barry.

Now that we're a contender, we're a much nicer option for him. Plus, they are entertaining offers for his best bud, Ray Allen, making it more likely he'll leave.

We'll send them the TE and Juwan Howard for Brent Barry and Calvin Booth (two seperate deals). Then we sign McDyess.

Yao/Booth
McDyess/MoT
JJ/Boki/AG
T-Mac/Barry/Pike
Barry/Lue/Gaines

We may want to improve our defense at PG. We could possibly send Pike and Lue (both very friendly contracts) somewhere for a decent PG. Antonio Daniels maybe? Darrell Armstrong? Frank Williams?

 

Not really true, though. The Rockets' O doesn't rely on the PG to initiate offense. It relies on the PG to bring the ball up the court. Many can do that. Then it relies on the PG to make a half-decent first pass. That's it.

There's no penetration required. We don't need a guy who can split the defense. We don't need a field general.

We just want a guy who can:

(1) can get the ball to Shaq (err... I mean Yao) or Kobe (oops, McGrady).

(2) not screw up the offense once we get the ball to that guy.

Snow doesn't fit in with (2). He can't hit the 3. Therefore, he's a terrible option.