ESPN News: Ford Reports Snow May be Traded to Houston

i think Nikestard means if we are reducing salary then we are tradin Steve under his BYC which means we are using the 6.9 TE to make the numbers add up

 

Eric Snow cannot hit the 3. Therefore, I do not want Eric Snow. Fisher .

 

always like watching ESPN news since i am here at the bar i have to have all the espn's on and i get to see all aspects of everything.

 

Nope. You only receive a trade exception if you trade away a single player and you take back less salary. Since we traded away mulitple players, we don't get an exception.

 

We can trade for prospects. Oh wait...


Now will somebody please explain the fixation of Brent Barry? I just don't see it.

If I'm CD or JVG, my wish list is Fisher above all else. As I've touched on in another thread, when was the last time Brent Barry complemented 2 future HOFers and won a championship?

There's no way Houston gets Barry.

And while the Rockets are weaker at the 5, it's not that big of an issue in my opinion. Besides the fact of yao being better developed over the course of the next few years, the rotation is certainly not the best 1-2 punch for centers (as I still think Cato+Yao was), a solid rotation of Spoon and Howard will prove effective without Yao in the game.

last year the PF was a hole, but no more! Spoon and Howard in teh game at the same time is a decent big man lineup.


But I expect Yao to pick up his game, following Hakeem and how he succeeded as THE big man in those championship lineups.

 

I THINK Snow would be a good fit defensively for our ball club, but doesn't have the range to spread the floor. His leadership is unquestionable, but his shot would allow for more teams to collapse on Yao and TMAC. I would prefer to get Rafer ALston. He's definately a fan favorite and he is proven to be able to make shots. He hit a three pointer in 40 something games in a row. Derek fisher might be a good fit, but I HATE DEREK FISHER! No way should we ever pick up and FAKERS! stupid ass flopper.. therefore my vote goes to Rafer Alston

 

Pros
1. Snow is a smart, pass-first PG.

2. He is a good passer and has no problem finding the open man.

3. He has good size and a good defender.

Cons
1. Snow has never been a good shooter.

 

Do we need another shooter on this team? We already have TMAC, Yao, Howard, Jackson in the starting lineup. I vote for defense and passing.

 

Of the guards Ford mentions I would most want Speedy Claxton. He is a superb player. That and his contract isn't bad. The Sixers would have to give us an incentive to take Snow's awful contract. I would make them include Dalembert to fill our void at back up center.

 

If there was any Laker that I wouldn't have a problem with, it's Fisher. There was no need for Fisher on LA when they had a rising Rush who needed more playing time. Fisher is the PERFECT fit because of his outside threat. Yes, he whines a bit, but he isn't hated like the punks like Walton and Medvedenko. Still, just imagine Fisher bringing up the ball, passes to Yao; Yao gets doubled; passes to T-Mac at the top of the key with 2 players coming at him and then dishing it to a wide-open Fisher (or JJ) in the corner. *SWISH*

And yes, I think this team needs more shooting. TMac can't AND won't do it alone like he's carried ORL. The defense last year was phenomenal while the offense lacked. So you lose a turnover machine (Francis), lose a GOOD stealer and driver-to-the-hoop (Mobley), and a decent shot blocker (Cato), yet you gain scoring in TMac and scoring and a presence in Howard.

Remember the trade where Oakland sent Chuckie to Tampa Bay for draft picks/cash/players? Well with Rudy headed to LA, would a sign-and-trade work?

 

The Rockets need a point guard number one!

At the beginning I was leaning towards Barry, but now that I've seen the numbers for Snow, I like Snow better.

It will be more important to set up McGrady and Yao than to try to get open shots. With McGrady, the 3 point shot becomes less important.

Snow still shoots about 43% which is respectable. Barry on the other hand shoots 50% and 45% from the 3 point line.

Eric Snow would be a very good fit and would save us the MLE for a big man. I prefer Snow because he gives effort on defense each game.

 

For the record, if you're talking exclusively from behind the 3pt line, yeah, Fisher is pretty good and Snow sucks. But Fisher is a lifetime .397 shooter from the floor, and shot a miserable .352 overall last year. Yeah, it's affected by the number of 3s he took, but it's still damn low. Snow is a career .432 shooter who hit on .413 last year from the floor. Unless it's all about 3s, which is a valid argument, then kicking out to Fish isn't exactly a lock, either.

 

Either way I'd like either Barry or Snow.

Can't go wrong with either guy.

 

The only way I would trade for Snow would be if we could dump a crappy contract like Weatherspoon or get a 1st round pick in return.

He's just not a good enough player to warrant his contract.

And as we learned, it's not necessarily the amount, but length of the contract, which makes it an unforgivable sin.

 

I abhor Eric Snow's style of play.

It seems like hustle-players have gone from respected contributors to glorified centerpieces on teams- see Jerome Williams, Eric Snow , Bruce Bowen, etc..

A 3 point shot and predilection for the running the break are pre-requisites in my mind, which makes Brent Barry the most intriguing possibility.

He is a notorious defender though, so I don't know if Van Gundy pulls the trigger on a 33 year old looking for full MLE money.

I'd be perfectly content with Fisher. Don't let his critics who say the Lakers achille's heel the past few years has been their, and more directly his, inability to shut down point guards.

It had a whole lot more to do with the laziness of the Lakers big men to come out on screens.

 

I don't see why anyone's considering Snow. I know others have said it already, but his contract is long and expensive given what he offers the team. If he were a good fit, it might be a different story, but his inability to hit the three is unacceptable given that Yao and T-Mac apparently both like to kick it out from the interior.

 

People are complaining about Eric Snow's contract, but Brent Barry is a YEAR OLDER and will be asking for the same money. Barry's a better shooter, Snow's a better playmaker and a MUCH better defender.

Here's the one question: With Yao and T-Mac holding the ball as much as they would, do we really need a playmaker, or do we just need someone who can prey off double teams?

 

If the Rockets are serious about using the TE on Eric Snow & taking his contract I have no issue with it. However, if they are talking with Philly then CD needs to play hardball with them.

If I'm CD I tell Philly that we don't take Snow unless we get Dalembert in the deal as well. Afterall, we are doing them a favor by relieving them of Snow's contract. Snow is making a little over 4 Mil per year and Dalembert, in his final season of his rookie contract, is making a little over 1 Mil. Since the TE is 6.9 we could make it work. Why would Philly do it? Well, if taking Snow's contract isn't enough incentive, they could always use the cap space to sign a replacement for Dalembert especially since they might lose him for nothing anyways.

Now is where I get greedy. If CD could pull something like that off then I'd still go after Brent Barry & start him at the SG and move McGrady to the SF. This would be the best case scenario because it would fill all the holes we are looking at & we could still sign a PF/C to the veterans minimum. This move would also give some added depth by moving JJ to the bench.

The Rockets would still have pieces they could move. CD could still improve the team by trying to move Mo Taylor if they still want more depth at the Center position.

Here's the starting lineup:

PG: Eric Snow/Tyronne Lue/Reece Gaines
SG: Brent Barry/Jim Jackson/Eric Piatkowski
SF: Tracy McGrady/Bostjan Nachbar/Adrian Griffin
PF: Juwan Howard/Mo Taylor/Clarence Weatherspoon
C: Yao Ming/Samuel Dalembert/Vet Minimum

Like I said, some of the third string guys could be moved for future considerations if need be. That doesn't apply to Mo Taylor or Clarence though, unfortunately

I feel this lineup gives you a mix of defense & leadership, plus gives you the outside shooter in Barry & the assist man in Snow. This team also has a nice mix of veterans and young guys. What do you guys think? Thought we could think outside of the box!

 

No way...don't get Snow...he ain't a good shooter to me.

 

another trade..?..man i might as well go away and come back in october...i can not take anymore of this...