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Davis Mills - From not to hot

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Sep 19, 2021.

  1. J.R.

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    https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-62-starting-qbs-of-the-2021-nfl-season
    (End of last season)

    31(of 62). Davis Mills — Mills outplaying the top-three picks in the 2021 draft as a rookie is either a sign of great things to come or will look insane in a decade. The floor on Mills has definitely been raised; he's an NFL quarterback and possibly a starter. The ceiling is also intriguing, because his physical gifts are obvious. This is not Mike Glennon.

    https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-quarterback-rankings
    (End of last season)
    29. Davis Mills
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    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/top-32-nfl-quarterbacks/

    25. Davis Mills

    Chris Simms
    https://sports.nbcsports.com/2022/0...40-qb-countdown-ahead-of-upcoming-nfl-season/

    35. Davis Mills — Up and down early last season, but came back a different player down the stretch. Knows how to read defenses and move in the pocket. Not a huge arm but can make all the throws. Texans may have a diamond in the rough, and he deserves a shot to prove it

    1. Josh Allen, Buffalo
    2. Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City
    3. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers
    4. Joe Burrow, Cincinnati
    5. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay
    6. Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams
    7. Russell Wilson, Denver
    8. Tom Brady, Tampa Bay
    9. Dak Prescott, Dallas
    10. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore
    11. Derek Carr, Las Vegas
    12. Kyler Murray, Arizona
    13. Deshaun Watson, Cleveland
    14. Matt Ryan, Indianapolis
    15. Ryan Tannehill, Tennessee
    16. Kirk Cousins, Minnesota
    17. Baker Mayfield, Cleveland
    18. Mac Jones, New England
    19. Carson Wentz, Washington
    20. Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco
    21. Daniel Jones, New York Giants
    22. Zach Wilson, New York Jets
    23. Justin Fields, Chicago
    24. Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville
    25. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia
    26. Jameis Winston, New Orleans
    27. Mitchell Trubisky, Pittsburgh
    28. Marcus Mariota, Atlanta
    29. Tua Tagovailoa, Miami
    30. Jared Goff, Detroit
    31. Trey Lance, San Francisco
    32 Sam Darnold, Carolina
    33. Geno Smith, Seattle
    34. Tyler Huntley, Baltimore
    35. Davis Mills, Houston
    36. Tyrod Taylor, New York Giants
    37. Gardner Minshew, Philadelphia
    38. Teddy Bridgewater, Miami
    39. Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh
    40. Drew Lock, Seattle

    Mike Tannenbaum
    (End of last season)
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...w-all-32-teams-qbs-stack-weekly-big-takeaways

    29. Davis Mills

    CBS — ‘16th best’ AFC QB


    ESPN/Anonymous executives — ‘6th best’ 2nd year QB


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    20-25 range seems about right.
     
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  2. Fulgore

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    Should be a slap in the face to mills. He was clearly better than Lawrence but ppl keep placing Lawrence ahead of him.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

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    Zack Wilson and Justin Fields looked awful last season. Trey Lance has shown nothing. And Mills had vastly superior stats to Trevor Lawrence. This list is trash!
     
  4. Fulgore

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    Espn is a joke. Lawrence the #1 pick went on a 9 game stretch where he threw 1 td. That’s pathetic.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    These silly lists have certainly got people clicking/posting/talking, which is the whole point of silly lists like these.
     
  6. deb4rockets

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    Let's hope he slaps them in the face with his performance this year. The best is yet to come. We are still in the process of adding players to support him.
     
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    https://theathletic.com/3443022/202...iers/?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=4658383
     
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    Not sure where this average arm strength rhetoric is coming from. He’s got an NFL caliber arm, he just throws with good touch. When he has to fire it in there it’s got some zip. You don’t see him under throw balls and they have good loft and carry.
     
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  10. J.R.

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    ^^^^

    Tier 1
    1. Aaron Rodgers
    2. Patrick Mahomes
    3. Tom Brady
    4. Josh Allen
    5. Justin Herbert
    6. Joe Burrow

    Tier 2
    7. Matthew Stafford
    8. Russell Wilson
    9. Deshaun Watson

    Watson got votes in the first, second and third tiers, plus a lone vote in Tier 5, as voters debated what to make of him after one year on the sideline, two dozen civil lawsuits against him and uncertainty surrounding how much Watson would be available to the Browns this season.

    “A Tier 1 distraction is what Watson is,” an evaluator said. “It blows me away paying the all-time NFL contract for a Tier 2 player.”

    Watson is just 26 years old, so there’s time for Cleveland to play the long game. Still …

    “I can’t believe that the Browns did what they did,” a GM said. “There’s just too many unknowns. I know Andrew (Berry), and I just can’t picture him doing that. Take the contract out of there. Just making this guy the face of your franchise and really not knowing, ‘Do we have him this year, do we not have him this year, will other stuff come up?’ I just can’t imagine doing that.”

    The Browns did it, and now they are more talented at quarterback, whenever Watson plays.

    “I know he is all (screwed) up, but he is a 1,” a defensive coordinator said. “I mean, I’m just rating him as a football player. He is a 1. He is legit. You could put the game on him. They were bad and losing in Houston, but it wasn’t because of him.”

    Houston ranked 10th in offensive EPA and 31st in combined defensive and special-teams EPA in 2020, Watson’s final season as the Texans’ starter. Watson ranked 12th in Total QBR. The team finished 4-12.

    Voters placed Watson at the bottom of Tier 1 last offseason. They dropped him into the second tier this year.

    “It will not be hard to put Watson back into Tier 1 if he does what the Dolphins and Cleveland and half-a-dozen other teams thought he would do if they signed him,” an offensive coach said.

    10. Lamar Jackson
    11. Dak Prescott
    12. Derek Carr
    13. Kyler Murray
    14. Matt Ryan

    Tier 3
    15. Kirk Cousins
    16. Jimmy Garoppolo
    17. Ryan Tannehill
    18. Mac Jones
    19. Baker Mayfield
    T-20. Jalen Hurts
    T-20. Carson Wentz
    22. Jared Goff
    23. Trevor Lawrence
    24. Jameis Winston

    Tier 4
    25. Justin Fields
    26. Tua Tagovailoa
    27. Davis Mills
    28. Zach Wilson
    29. Trey Lance
    30. Daniel Jones
    31. Marcus Mariota
    32. Sam Darnold
    33. Mitchell Trubisky
    34. Drew Lock

    Tier 5
    35. Geno Smith
     
  11. Rockets34Legend

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    **** this list. I'm hoping to see more of these this season....

     
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  12. Hemingway

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    Not saying Mills is better than the tier 3 guys, but because of his potential and the age, past performance, and lack of upside of those qb’s the only guy I would trade Mills straight up for is Lawrence (I still think he is going to be really good).
     
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    The rankings on the 2nd year QBs is based on draft position. It is LAZY. It is easy to put Mills at 6 because he is the 3rd rounder. Does team play some part of it? Yes, but if you actually watched games...those rankings don't make sense.
     
  15. deb4rockets

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    I don't care what those jokers rank Mills. You can't go off their draft. It's like they didn't even see how Mills progressed with far less college playing time.

    Davis Mills threw the second-most TDs among last year's rookie class in just 11 starts and 13 games.

    Trey Lance, 49ers
    5 TDs, 2 INTs
    97.3 rating

    Mac Jones, Patriots
    22 TDs, 13 INTs
    92.5 rating

    Davis Mills, Texans
    16 TDs, 10 INTs
    88.8 rating

    Justin Fields, Bears
    7 TDs, 10 INTs
    73.2 rating

    Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars
    12 TDs, 17 INTs
    71.9 passer rating
     
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    Why nobody want me, uncle Cal.
    (intense hug)
     
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  18. Mr.Scarface

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    Dude, find another franchise.

    Lazy writing.

    Texans have alot to look forward to. They have more talent than last season. No more Watson distraction. A REAL Head Coach and OC to guide them. 22 picks in the next 2 drafts, including 4 #1s. The most cap space in the league in 2023. Texans will be fine.

    Texans will win atleast 6 games this season. Book it!
     
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  19. Fulgore

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    Baker and Lawrence should be in tier 4
     
  20. DatRocketFan

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    U always type the same bs.

    If folks complain about the franchise: go find another franchise.
    100% loyalty to everything the Texans does is not a evidence of being a tru fan, it's just being a sheep.

    Yea u sold that flexible cap bs to me also when BoB was in charge. Having the most cap space means jack sht if we r just gonna lose more.

    I can already forsee us having another losing season. New coach, talent lacking basically every position, no franchise star, the list goes on and on.

    If Mills can b the franchise qb at least that's one less thing our sht franchise has to worry about.

    Not everyone has to eat up the sht product the texans display to b considered a fan.
     
    #1160 DatRocketFan, Jul 26, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2022

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