Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

I don't recall posting a meme

 

ok. lets try again...

if you knew the tweet you posted was B.S. then youre lying.
if you didnt then youre ignorant.

 

yep

 

Except that it isn't accurate according to multiple polls. And it attempts to minimize the attack, destruction and attempt to overthrow democracy in the United States.

 

This sums it up. Even those on the right or Republicans that don't agree are complicit and out of touch with what happened.

They aren't taking ownership or working to correct the problem. By and large they either support it or want nothing done about it which is almost as bad.

 

I feel differently- everyone was rioting , BLM, Antifa , hooligans and dumb and dumber types - there was a riot at the White House - what if those anti trump rioters got in the White House ? Imagine what they would do , wasn’t that akin to “overthrowing democracy “- now the reality is that if this was anything more than wrong place and wrong time rioting as I saw it then I don’t know what to say - Did any of those fools think by showing up they would overthrow the most powerful govt? Seriously? Lmao

led by mainly weapon less idiots and those that may have have a rock or stick or some “weapon” were few and far between

This was pent up rioting caused in part by frustration whether valid or invalid by dumb and dumber types that didn’t foresee the consequences and acted the way mobs typically do …
-nothing you can say can change my perspective and the best part is I’m not alone with that thought process -
right now I’m more concerned about the border crisis and everything it affects - the gas crisis- the inflation crisis- the infant formula crisis- the rising crime crisis -etc -

 

in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard

 

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The unheard aren't the people at the top of that bar graph right?

Here's the thing, the Jan 6thr riots was fueled by disinformation campaigns online instigated by the former president of the United States.

Riots from BLM protests come from a combo factor of multiple centuries of grievances and the fact that law enforcement and right wing culture is pretty much a single circle in a Venn diagram which means protests that center around things like wealth inequality or law enforcement abuses on poor minority neighborhoods are goong to be extra spicy due to more aggressive tactics by conservative/right wings cops along with white nationalists spamming these protests with their presence usually dressed up as if they are about to do a Helo raid in Afghanistan.

 

Except unlike any anti-police-brutality riots, these were planned out weeks prior. They plotted and coordinated how they would go.

They were literally trying to stop the will of the people demonstrated by a free and fair election. Trump was angry that Pence wouldn't abandon the constitution to overturn the election.

The leader of the free world who lost the election told these people that the election was stolen and they believed him. The fact that many of the insurrectionists seemed less than intelligent to you speaks to the people willing to believe the lies. It doesn't change their intent.

It also doesn't change the fact that a huge portion of Republicans believe the election wasn't fair and that Democrats cheated.

 

The hearings have so far relied entirely on Republican officials and Trump's inner circle to show how Trump tried to overturn the election and stay in power.

Trump and his advisors knew he lost. Trump's inner circle knew he lost.

The sentiment (the Big Lie) started before the election. The seed was set by Trump. Pre-planned and then executed after the election.

The attack on the capital was a direct result of the Big Lie. Trump watch it unfold and did not call out the military or the guard to defend the Capital (Pence did that - he was basically acting President as the VP doesn't have this power AFAIK).

The $250m Trump raised for himself and his cronies after the election (to challenge election results - another lie as it was not used for that) was a direct result of the Big Lie. Isn't this wire fraud?

One thing you all need to keep in mind is every Republican and Trump's inner circle who has spoken to the committee has done so under oath - they all say the same things. But in public, they would say and do different things (still support Trump's Big Lie). It takes a special person to not know which one is true and which one is politic.

 

If they were dumb enough to believe Trump's lie that the vote was stolen then of course so. LMAO. Trump's little army of thugs were dumber than a bag of rocks. Everyone at that rally was dumb enough to believe his lie!

 

Last thing I will say is I certainly wish the mob didn’t act up just like any and all mobs you had a pyramid mix of actual purpose driven instigators and the bulk of go along types being the majority,,, protest is fine just like those that protest whatever the cause is but to me you draw the line at protests that become riots accompanied by violence and lawless destruction. It’s similar to when anyone gets a citation and you’re not happy at the situation you can either handle it with precision and smart tactical decisions after the fact or act a fool, and/or attack the officer at the scene.

We saw way too many of those supposed protests turn into violence and lawless destruction mainly by those with left leaning political undertones. In the words of the great Lord humongous, “there was too much violence and too much bloodshed” and innocent folks at restaurants, pawn shops, and stores or even at government sites were affected…

The vast majority of people got caught in the moment, it doesn’t excuse it and they get what they deserve just as the lawyers that fire bombed a squad car now got their career livelihoods wrecked forever and jail time.

 

They came really close to delaying the certification of the electoral vote count to legitimize the election of Biden. Had that happened, no telling what chaos would have ensued in the coming days.

They had a compatriot in Trump who waited hours before calling them off even though he was advised to do it much sooner.

 

I totally agree. No excuse for violence. That being said, looters aren't necessarily Democrats and neither are thugs. I doubt a lot of those types even vote. Looters are opportunist crooks, druggies, and thugs who find prime opportunities to steal what they can, damage what they can, and act out.

The mainly peaceful protests were a nice distraction for them to loot and steal. Sure, some protesters take it too far, but there are bad apples in every crowd, left and right, and a lot of those types just show up to stir up ****. There is too much damn bloodshed every day in this country and far too much hate and bigotry. When you add millions of guns to the mix it's volatile. We have people shooting up people in restaurants, schools, parades, churches, and everywhere else.

 

Looting is a wealth inequality issue.

The Jan 6th riot is a disinformation campaign issue headed by the former president of the US for selfish reasons to stay in power.

 

What? Looting is when civil unrest meets lack of character.

 

Is lack of character genetic or is it formed from experiences?

 

The difference between those thugs and looters and Trump was the amount of money they looted. It would take a hell of a lot of stolen TVs, shoes, and other crap to equal the millions of dollars Trump took off gullible followers in his Stop the Steal scam. As for character, he's no better than the small time thugs but a hell of a lot more dangerous in what he tried to accomplish that day, and in what he is still trying to do with his lying about the election.

 

Character is based on free will. You can choose what you do (or in the case of looting, don't do). I don't think there is a conclusive answer to what the bases of a person's decisions are, but most experts would probably agree there is some influence from both nature and nurture. It cannot be all socialization that make men far more violent than women, for example.

The money he took from his stupid followers was freely given. If people want to give Trump money to challenge the election, they can do what they want. The people that gave money to BLM are their equivalent. The looters took things they were not being offered, sometimes violently, and often from people that had no insurance and had nothing to do with their grievances. There were also many more deaths resultant from the BLM related riots than the January 6 riot.