Former Rocket Avery Johnson is just a hater. Paolo will fit in just fine on offense with KPJ and Green. Wood will grumble. He needs to go now. We can try to acquire a defensive wing like Beauchamp with the 17th and re-sign Fernando on a 3 Yr 18 M contract.
The problem with your reasoning here is that we hired Silas to compete, before Harden demanded out. I don't think we should fire him, but I also don't think race is super relevant here
I won’t evaluate Silas based on next year - we’re tanking. like I said earlier, 2023 off-season is when we will have cap space, more young talent, and be ready to make win now moves considering OKC owns our draft rights again in 2024. I will evaluate Silas based on the 2023-24 season
Do you really think Fernando is in line to get that kind of money? I liked what he did with us last year but it seems to me that he's closer to being out of the league than getting a deal like that. I think he'd be thrilled with a Garry Bird type deal.
That’s my point though. Silas thought he was going to get the chance to compete, then the rug got pulled out from under him when Harden demanded a trade. Rockets shouldn’t fire Silas before he’s given a chance to compete - then he’d be another black coach that had his record ruined by an organization before being jettisoned for a white coach when the team is better. Race is always relevant.
except I’m 1 of the few who even bothers to defend Silas, and Atkinson was my top choice the minute MDA left so no…
So we don’t evaluate a coach in his first 3 years? That’s awesome for Silas. I’ll give u that we tanked the last 2 years (although it’s clear that Stone was not trying to tank the first half of 2020). But next year we need to show some improvement. I don’t think u can just ignore Silas’ coaching in his 3rd year. We’ll need to see improvement even though we will likely still be a lotto team. If we don’t see improvement I think that’s a clear indictment of the coaching.
You evaluate him in context. This team is going to be even younger next year than it was this past year… My evaluation of Silas for next year isn’t on wins, it’s are the young players developing? Look at Green’s early season to Green post all star break - he’s credited Silas for helping him figure out a lot. Look at KPJs growth under Silas. Seems like you want to put Silas in a position to fail - then blame him for that failure. Something that happens to black coaches way too often. Allow Silas the opportunity to be in a position to chase more team success in 2023-24.
no I don’t want to put Silas in a position to fail but don’t think u can justify being the worst team in the league for 3 yrs in a row. If our players continue to develop being last place won’t happen. I don’t think u give a coach a total pass his first 3 years just because the team is rebuilding. Improving means player development and crawling out of the last place basement. Not saying he needs to make the playoffs but we need to be an improved team next year.
Rafael Stone said in exit interviews that we lost a ton this year because how young we are - then he said that he expects us to be even younger next year. I expect 20-30 wins which is a slight improvement. It’s clear Stone/Tilman want to tank one last year before OKC takes pick control again. Silas is lucky that he has a black GM that understands the position Silas has been put in - he won’t fire him now. 76ers tanked with Brett brown and then gave him a few years to compete when the roster improved. Why can’t we do the same?
So he got the rug pulled out from under him when a player of his same race decided he needed a change of scenery. If anything you could say that his record was ruined by James Harden. Race is always relevant if you make everything about race. I'd sympathize with a white coach just as much if he were in Silas' situation. Or a Hispanic coach, or an Asian coach, or any other variety of coach. You could come to the exact same conclusion without race in the equation. To me, that means race is not a meaningful metric here
if we are dead last yet again with little to no improvement in our offensive and defensive rankings while sporting a point differential of almost -10, then it will be a problem around 25 wins at the very least while showing some semblance of competence at both ends of the floor should be the absolute bare minimum this season u can’t have more 15+ game losing streaks and have like 70% of your season be garbage time
You seem more worried about arguing whether or not race is a factor rather than arguing over anything else - so let’s remove it from this debate. James Harden isn’t Silas’ employer but let’s move away from that and assume that the opportunities in life given to people of all races are the same. I still believe offering Silas a job where he thought he could compete, only to turn around and fire him because Harden left and Silas had no proven talent to work with is ridiculous. We’re intentionally tanking and developing young players. Firing Silas for that makes no sense. Luckily Stone is in charge and he will give Silas an honest shot as our resources improve.
Haha because I completely agree with you on everything else. The most important things we need from a coach right now are player development and keeping the locker room together. I think Silas is good or quite good in both aspects. I like the guy
Totally agree. Really this is about giving Silas 3 years of failure in the hopes that year 4 will be different. I could have told you Brett Brown was going to fail after 3 years. Probably going to be the same with Silas. However I will say Silas is really good at drawing up plays after timeouts.
The wunderkind of coaches was out; the HE hired the coach who is 2 Ws from a ‘chip. With essentially the same roster.
Sounds like Silas should have gotten to know his new star Harden a bit to gauge his mood on the organization if Harden's presence was the only reason he wanted to coach the Rockets If Harden lied to him, Silas was free to resign 2 years ago and seek another head coaching gig before his record was ruined by Harden's rug pulling He chose to take the job He chose to stay when Harden left Nobody trapped Silas into his first shot Professionals are judged by results ONLY Nobody wants to hear all the reasons why you didn't produce If his job was to finish with the worst record 3 years in a row, then he should have security knowing his bosses are ecstatic with his results Perhaps his bosses have different expectations for this team than you do Doesn't make them racist
I don't get it either .... its like everyone wants to tank but needs someone to kick in the junk while they are at it. Silas offense has been nothing short of spectacular all things considered. 1st in points in the paint 1st in FT attempts 1st in % of open / wide open shots from 3. 1st in pace The advanced metrics of his offense are out of this world good .... Silas got them great looks - they just didn't make them most of the season and we expected them to be piss poor defensively ..... and they were. The goal was for the kids to improve and they did just that. Green was terribad to start the season, finished looking like a real star. Christopher earned a spot in the rotation Nix earned an NBA contract Sengun showed us why Stone traded up to get him. Garuba .... injuries ruined his season. KMJ improved as the season went on, his shot is getting better, next step is defense. KPJ .... just look at the statistics. EG shot over 40% for 3 for the 2nd time in his career. C Wood hit a career high 39% from 3. Silas delivered exactly what we asked of him - a top 3 pick in the draft & solid growth from the players / assets.
