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  1. tozai

    tozai Member

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    I'm glad it's done, but wish we had gotten Gaines. Poo on Lue.
     
  2. swooh

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    the washington post has no idea wtf its talking about. All they've managed to do is interpret what information is already out there in an attempt to look like they were the first ones to break the story. If you read closely..there are no new tidbits of information floating around out there that can be interpreted one way or the other. Yet another case of east coast media trying to predict the future. Dont get your hopes up guys...this one could still fall through the cracks. Wiseguy has shown us all nothing is a done deal untill he says so. A point the washington post obviously didnt learn the first time :(
     
  3. Clutchster

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    I think the deal is going to be announed most likely tomorrow because they want to give up Lue before he opts out of his contract. If not tomorrow, then Wednesday. We will end up with Howard and McGrady, since Lue will opt out. I think Fisher is going to be our future point gaurd for now. We might have to run the triangle offense again. Fisher is well experienced with that.
     
  4. Coach AI

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    Heh. Even without trying to give the smackdown...he still gives the smackdown. :)
     
  5. r-fan-since-81

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    Gundy will never be BIG CHEIF TRIANGLE II.
     
  6. Dubious

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    If I were a photshop guy I would morph Wiesbrod with a weasel to make Weaselbrod.

    Maybe he's just doing all this to sweat McGrady; payback for making the Magic take less than an even trade for him. Now I happen to think 3/5 of a playoff team is pretty fair but surley the Magic would have prefered to keep McGrady or at least been able to negotiate with all bidders instead of Tracy forcing the Houston deal. It is a stain on the Magic organization that he wants to leave so badly.
     
  7. Jeff

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    As you wish...

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    ;)
     
  8. SageHare6

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    This is CLASSIC. Any chance, Clutch would move this onto the home page?

    Weaselbrod. heh hehehe

    :D

    theSAGE
     
  9. RocksMillenium

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    Since when has Jim Gray worked for the Rockets!? :confused:

    And hasn't your GM made a comment about the trade EVERYDAY? Even Pat Williams has made comments, and all of the info about the deal came from the Orlando press!
     
  10. Rox225

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    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...n29,1,4871669.story?coll=orl-sports-headlines

    Francis to meet with the Magic
    Houston all-star Steve Francis softens his stance on being traded for Tracy McGrady.
    By Brian Schmitz
    Sentinel Staff Writer

    June 29, 2004

    Houston Rockets guard Steve Francis is coming to Orlando today for what amounts to a job interview with the Magic.

    The meeting could pave the way to complete a much-anticipated multiplayer trade between the Magic and the Houston Rockets involving Tracy McGrady and Francis as the principals.

    After news broke last week that the Magic and Rockets were working on the deal, Francis said he did not want to play in Orlando.

    He softened his stance after an initial contact with Magic General Manager John Weisbrod. Weisbrod invited Francis to Orlando -- with the Rockets' permission -- to learn about the organization and the city after they talked last week.

    Jeff Fried, Francis agent, confirmed that the all-star point guard will meet with Weisbrod and team officials.

    "It may be unusual, but certainly productive for both sides," Fried said. "Why wouldn't a team and an organization want to speak to a player they are considering bringing in and being a centerpiece? And why wouldn't a player want to meet with the team before everything is final?

    "It's productive for both sides. Steve is very impressed with what he's heard from John to this point."

    But Weisbrod said the meeting with Francis does not necessarily mean the Magic and Rockets are close to completing the deal. He said earlier Monday that the club still has offers from four teams for McGrady.



    Meanwhile, Grant Hill began, in earnest, his final comeback attempt on Monday at RDV Sportsplex.

    Hill hopes to find out if his left ankle can hold up to the rigors of full-court basketball before the opening of the Orlando Magic's training camp Oct. 5 at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville.

    Hill will work up to testing his ankle strenuously, and said if he significantly reinjures it he will retire immediately.

    Hill has had four surgeries since being signed by the Magic in the summer of 2000. His last and most extensive procedure was in March of 2003, and doctors have told him that his ankle is as sound as it ever will be.

    "It will be tested prior to camp, I can tell you that. If there's any problems or anything wrong, it will -- by all means -- not be worth it," said Hill, who started stepping up his workouts in a swimming pool at RDV.

    "I don't anticipate any problems, but I'm not going to play Superman. It's not worth it. I'll save the Superman stuff for the rookies."

    Although Hill said last week in Houston he had inside information that the McGrady trade would go down, he admitted he had no official confirmation.

    "It's not as easy as trading baseball cards," Hill said. "We'll see. Whatever happens, Tracy is going to bring tremendous value."

    Hill said he regretted being unable to play a full season with McGrady, who joined him in the summer of 200 as the Magic's prize signees.

    "It just didn't work out the way we wanted it," he said. "It looks like we're going to have a new team, and from my perspective, a lot depends on health. There's mine and Pat Garrity's."

    Garrity, who played in just two games last season, is recovering from knee surgery.

    Hill said he thought the Magic should have taken Emeka Okafor with the No. 1 pick before the draft. But after the Magic sent him tapes of Dwight Howard's high school games and his workout tapes with the Magic, he was sold on Howard, an 18-year-old forward from Atlanta Southwest Christian Academy.

    "After seeing Dwight Howard, it was a no-brainer," Hill said. "Both of those guys are great, but I think this kid will come in and have an impact. I think he'll be a big surprise. It's just something you see in him.

    "I saw one game where he got a bounce pass and then crossed a guy over [with his dribble]. He has a basketball feel, and you wouldn't know -- by the way he moves -- if he is 6-10 or 6-2.

    "I think he's farther along than Amare Stoudemire was [as a teen draft pick]. I was in awe."

    Hill has played with just one player who came directly out of high school.

    When he was in Detroit, the Pistons drafted Korleone Young in 1998 in the second round. Young was a bust -- playing only 15 minutes total in three regular-season games -- then bouncing around in the minor leagues and overseas.

    "An unfortunate situation," said Hill.

    Sentinel staff writer Tim Povtak contributed to this report. But Weisbrod said the meeting with Francis does not necessarily mean the Magic and Rockets are close to completing the deal. He said earlier Monday that the club still has offers from four teams for McGrady. "We're letting Steve come in, but it's not like it's any big piece to this [deal]. It's not a difference-maker," Weisbrod said.

    Someone please take Weisbrod out of his misery :mad:
     
  11. Jeff

    Jeff Clutch Crew

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    Hasn't this been posted a few times already?
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Well, they are just quoting the Washington post article, but...

    [​IMG]

    ;) :D

    Report: Magic set to announce McGrady trade

    Posted: 2 hours ago

    With Steve Francis apparently interested in playing next to high school star Dwight Howard, the Orlando Magic are set to announce as soon as Wednesday they've sent Tracy McGrady to Houston in a trade that will bring Francis to Orlando, according to the Washington Post.

    Under the terms of the trade, the Magic will send guard McGrady — the NBA's scoring leader — forward Juwan Howard and guard Tyronn Lue to the Rockets for Francis, guard Cuttino Mobley and center Kelvin Cato, according to the newspaper, which cited an unnamed league source.
    The trade was held up for roughly a week after Francis said he did not want to play for the Magic, a last-place team.

    Francis, a three-time All Star has changed his mind and has reportedly been persuaded to move to Orlando by Magic' GM John Weisbrod.

    The former University of Maryland standout is also expected to fly to Orlando to meet with the Magic's management Tuesday.

    Weisbrod apparently sold Francis on the team's draft acquisitions, playoff chances and appreciation of his talents, according to Jeff Fried, Francis' agent.

    "They could have got anyone for Tracy McGrady," Fried said. "That impressed Steve about how highly the Magic thought of him."

    http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=2528476
     
  13. blazer_ben

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    Did'nt i say this clown says he has Still 4 other offers!. lets be Realistic here who are these teams?. i can only think of Pheonix and Indy!. honestly, i's frustrated angry, you name it!. This Wisel is something else!.
     
  14. Rox225

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    Not that I know of, if it has been then my apologies!
     
  15. SamFisher

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    LOL, what a moron.

    "We're letting Francis come in, we might even let him have a left over set of thunder stix if I I've got one lying around, but it's not like it's a big deal or anything. We'll see, I mean, we're kind of stacked at guard, we have Reece Gaines and now Jameer Nelson; That's why we couldn't hang on to Tracy, the competition was just too tough; We might let Francis have a try-out and maybe we'll sign him to our summer league roster and if he plays well enough, we'll invite him to camp, but you know, it's one of those things where I just don't really care enough to have an opinion, you know," Weisbrod said.
     
  16. thacabbage

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    I can't help but snicker every time I read that. As if this entire debacle hasn't been embarassment enough already....
     
  17. sonique15

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    give the guy a break jeff....there's so much info out there about the trade......its almost impossible to be sure if its been posted or not........
     
  18. brooksstephens

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    By Brian Schmitz
    Sentinel Staff Writer

    June 29, 2004

    Houston Rockets guard Steve Francis is coming to Orlando today for what amounts to a job interview with the Magic.

    The meeting could pave the way to complete a much-anticipated multiplayer trade between the Magic and the Houston Rockets involving Tracy McGrady and Francis as the principals.

    After news broke last week that the Magic and Rockets were working on the deal, Francis said he did not want to play in Orlando.

    He softened his stance after an initial contact with Magic General Manager John Weisbrod. Weisbrod invited Francis to Orlando -- with the Rockets' permission -- to learn about the organization and the city after they talked last week.

    Jeff Fried, Francis agent, confirmed that the all-star point guard will meet with Weisbrod and team officials.

    "It may be unusual, but certainly productive for both sides," Fried said. "Why wouldn't a team and an organization want to speak to a player they are considering bringing in and being a centerpiece? And why wouldn't a player want to meet with the team before everything is final?

    "It's productive for both sides. Steve is very impressed with what he's heard from John to this point."

    But Weisbrod said the meeting with Francis does not necessarily mean the Magic and Rockets are close to completing the deal. He said earlier Monday that the club still has offers from four teams for McGrady.

    "We're letting Steve come in, but it's not like it's any big piece to this [deal]. It's not a difference-maker," Weisbrod said.

    League sources say that in addition to the Rockets, the Phoenix Suns and the Indiana Pacers, another unidentified team has been pursuing McGrady.

    Sources say that the holdup in the deal is that the Magic may be trying to get the Rockets to include some future draft picks or cash considerations.

    Asked if he expected the McGrady trade to happen soon, Weisbrod said, "I have no way of saying it would or wouldn't. . . . If something were to suddenly break with that, it would have to happen pretty quickly."

    Meanwhile, Grant Hill began, in earnest, his final comeback attempt on Monday at RDV Sportsplex.

    Hill hopes to find out if his left ankle can hold up to the rigors of full-court basketball before the opening of the Orlando Magic's training camp Oct. 5 at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville.

    Hill will work up to testing his ankle strenuously, and said if he significantly reinjures it he will retire immediately.

    Hill has had four surgeries since being signed by the Magic in the summer of 2000. His last and most extensive procedure was in March of 2003, and doctors have told him that his ankle is as sound as it ever will be.

    "It will be tested prior to camp, I can tell you that. If there's any problems or anything wrong, it will -- by all means -- not be worth it," said Hill, who started stepping up his workouts in a swimming pool at RDV.

    "I don't anticipate any problems, but I'm not going to play Superman. It's not worth it. I'll save the Superman stuff for the rookies."

    Although Hill said last week in Houston he had inside information that the McGrady trade would go down, he admitted he had no official confirmation.

    "It's not as easy as trading baseball cards," Hill said. "We'll see. Whatever happens, Tracy is going to bring tremendous value."

    Hill said he regretted being unable to play a full season with McGrady, who joined him in the summer of 200 as the Magic's prize signees.

    "It just didn't work out the way we wanted it," he said. "It looks like we're going to have a new team, and from my perspective, a lot depends on health. There's mine and Pat Garrity's."

    Garrity, who played in just two games last season, is recovering from knee surgery.

    Hill said he thought the Magic should have taken Emeka Okafor with the No. 1 pick before the draft. But after the Magic sent him tapes of Dwight Howard's high school games and his workout tapes with the Magic, he was sold on Howard, an 18-year-old forward from Atlanta Southwest Christian Academy.

    "After seeing Dwight Howard, it was a no-brainer," Hill said. "Both of those guys are great, but I think this kid will come in and have an impact. I think he'll be a big surprise. It's just something you see in him.

    "I saw one game where he got a bounce pass and then crossed a guy over [with his dribble]. He has a basketball feel, and you wouldn't know -- by the way he moves -- if he is 6-10 or 6-2.

    "I think he's farther along than Amare Stoudemire was [as a teen draft pick]. I was in awe."

    Hill has played with just one player who came directly out of high school.

    When he was in Detroit, the Pistons drafted Korleone Young in 1998 in the second round. Young was a bust -- playing only 15 minutes total in three regular-season games -- then bouncing around in the minor leagues and overseas.

    "An unfortunate situation," said Hill.

    Sentinel staff writer Tim Povtak contributed to this report.



    don't know if this has been posted yet....i haven't seen it
     
  19. brooksstephens

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    whoops, sorry bout that guys, somehow i missed it up there
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It's only about 5 posts above yours in this thread.
     

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