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Should the Rockets seriously explore trading UP to #4?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HealthyHamstring, Jun 3, 2022.

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  1. theDude

    theDude Contributing Member
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    Assuming my earlier theory has any validity, I decided to give it a shot. I went with a couple of perceived “win now” teams.

    Trade 1
    To WAS: Wood + Josh Christopher + 2023 MIL FRP
    To HOU: KCP + #10

    Trade 2
    To POR: Gordon + Tate + #17
    To HOU: Bledsoe + #7

    The Rocket could complete those trades and then give #7 and #10 to Sacramento for #4.

    Or they could complete one of those trades and give the acquired pick along with the proposed compensation from the other trade to give the Kings some win now assets (ex. Complete Trade 1 and give Kings #10 and Gordon + Tate + #17).

    Or they could just offer up all of the proposed assets (Wood+JC+Gordon+Tate + #17 + 2023 MIL FRP) for #4 and matching salary from SAC.

    It’s expensive, but I think it’s fair for both sides. If the Rockets could actually pull the two trades off, I’m not sure I wouldn’t rather just go into the draft with three top 10 picks.
     
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  2. Rokman

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    Green Ivey and Rose Wall. Sounds nice.
     
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    I'm sure they could finesse somehow? I haven't explored it mentally - just throwing out the first random thing that felt more attractive.
    I think my opinion is that IF the Kings trade the 4 pick, it will be for a significant player, not 2 semi significant players.
    They are more likely to add in one of their semi significant players or young talents with the 4 (and a future pick?) and receive back a star
     
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    I work with some of them - they're still shaking their heads.
     
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  5. SamFisher

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    Why would the Rockets trade up to 4 when they could simply wait 5 minutes on draft night and pick 4th?

    Stop overthinking it Einstein
     
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    not fighting you, just not feeling Sac as a landing place for CW. Cha, Den, Por, Minn, LAC possibilities?
     
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    Offensively I don't see Ivey as a top prospect. He looks very westbrookish (maybe smarter).

    But defensively I think he's got a chance to be elite.

    Maybe a much more athletic, a bit more offensive gifted Marcus Smart.

    Next to Green that's a good look.
     
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    One thing I'll say is that #7 is probably the most gettable of top 10 pick.

    I think Portland and Sacramento would prefer a star but Portland is probably more desperate.
     
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    SGA plus 30 and 34 picks.
     
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    Who do they want from this draft? Do some of their fans want a veteran instead of a talented rookie?
     
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    OKC could trump any of our offers. It would be cool but I can't see it as feasible.
     
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    What about Wood, EG and #17 for Portland’s 7th pick.
     
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    Kinda unpalatable from their pov.
     
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    I’d trade half the team for the pick honestly
     
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    Good Lawd.






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    I'm a big believer in putting all our chips into this draft. The 4-10 picks are all really good. I think we did great last year drafting 4 guys who will all be rotation players at minimum. My opinion is if we can get two top 10 picks in this draft, we probably won't need to tank anymore.

    Rockets org and many fans are in for a surprise. Rockets won't lose enough to be in the top 5 picks again and that's purely on the strength of Sengun, Green, #3 and the other young guys.
     
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    Sacramento’s window is a little larger, while Portland and Washington really have a one-year window to convince their stars. While these deals might not put them over the top, it gives them the firepower to stay relevant while also giving them some pieces to make a move at the deadline.
     
    #97 theDude, Jun 3, 2022
  18. Clutch

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    It isn't often that the opportunity comes up to acquire a pick like that. I think in the end the Kings will likely stay there and pick, but if it's available, the Rockets absolutely should make calls and see what it takes to make it happen.

    I don't think KPJ has much trade value.

    Sengun is likely what it would take but even then, I'm not sure what the Kings would think of a Sengun-Sabonis pairing. I would not include next year's pick. I would include #17, Milwaukee's pick next year, Eric Gordon, Christian Wood, Jae'Sean Tate -- any combo there.

    If you could exit this draft with Paolo (or whichever big falls to #3) and Ivey to put with Jalen Green and still have next year's pick... that's a massive win.
     
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    I think it's going to be tough to pull off but I really hope I'm wrong, Portland owns Milwaukee's 2025 top-4 protected pick and that one could be obtainable for one of the vets. But I would do a lot of combinations to get the 7th pick.
     
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  20. VoR

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    y'all are making things too complicated. just sign tyus jones and draft tyty. keep developing kpj.
     
    #100 VoR, Jun 3, 2022
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