If you can find a trade that only moves you two spots down and gets picks from three other teams then go for it.
Ok so now you are moving the goal posts right? Btw getting 2 picks for no 3 is def feasible, you can start with Detroit and Portland who own the 5th and 7th picks. According to Portland fans they are ok with trading the 7th for Jerami Grant and somebody like Jeasean Tate. Voila now you have the 5th, 7th and 17th pick in the draft and still have EG and Wood to trade for other assets or even trade up. If the Rox are feeling spicy they can even trade down the 17th for the Spurs' 20 and 25th picks and get 2 sleeper guys like Dalen Terry and Kendall Brown.
Banchero CAN play defense the question is does he WANT to play defense since he was lazy on D during the regular season. Whether or not Jabari can create is a moot point to me just like it doesn't matter that Klay Thompson can't create his own shot.
I doubt that Banchero will be saddled with the same offensive workload that he had at Duke. His effort in game deciding moments defensively is not in question. Some guys just want him to bust it 100% on every single play, but thats just not a reality for most players. I think the bad defense narrative has slowly started to fade once the deep dives began. From the looks of it he already has dropped 10-15 lbs from the end of the season and thats only going to help him in that department. Hopefully Jabari lands with a team that has great guard play and can set him up for success.
It sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but if prospects you like are available at a lower spot then it makes sense to trade down for additional assets. Boston knew Tatum would available and traded two spots down for an additional pick. And I actually really like Duren.
Idk man i thought teams future and I decided to keep Ivey. Team need a real PG and I watched ivey's game and I love his agility and he remind me Ja. Imo we can choose a wing at #17. We don't need Pf cuz front office don't want trade wood or Ego.
Comments like this make zero sense to me. First of all Jabari is only 19 lol "never been this type of player his entire life". Like how Kyle Lowry and Lebron had never been 3 pt shooters their entire lives before he came to the NBA. Secondly if a dude can lock everyone up and shoot 50% from 3 he still shouldnt be no 1 just cuz he cant create? Man I hope OKC and Orl thinks like that.
It is common knowledge that shooting is easier to develop than playmaking and feel. Some people have it some don’t. 3 point shooting is a skill players develop over time. Kyle Lowry and Lebron improved as shooters. Thanks for those examples of playmakers becoming good shooters. There are plenty of prospects who came in not being able to shoot or playmake. Which skill do those players develop? Kawhi Leanard went from a terrible shooter to an elite shooter. What’s his playmaking like? Oh 3 ast a game on very high usage. K. Could he dribble and generate his own offense better than Jabari in college? Unquestionably. Name one player in the entire NBA that had no playmaking skills and developed into a playmaker. I implore you. How is Jabari gonna do that when he couldn’t his whole life and the NBA is 10x faster? I want players that dominate at every level not….whatever Jabari was doing there. It’s high school that is just sad. Or maybe no defense Banchero locked up Jabari the great. Either way, kind of obvious who the best player on the court was. Both players were the same age. All I see is one player owning the other one. So is Banchero better on D than advertised or is Jabari seriously that hopeless at generating his own offense. That wasn’t one play. That was very, very rough. You can’t have it both ways. Considering the path Lebron and Lowry took to becoming great shooters, wouldn’t it seen plausible Banchero can do the same? Now find me some players who developed into playmakers. Either way, I’d rather the 18 year old that dominated the other 18 year old. That guy actually has a solid feel for basketball. There’s really something to be said for skill at an early age. One of those guys actually has a polished offensive game because he worked harder at his craft. I don’t know why that mentality wouldn’t translate at the next level. But here you are advocating for a guy who couldn’t even score on paper bag Paolo Banchero. We don’t know how defense translates at the next level. Pundits have been wrong many times. If I just look though, one guy can clearly dribble and the other can’t. One guy clearly dominated the other guy. Guess which player won the state title that year? You can speculate all you want about skill sets that aren’t there or you can go with the guy who actually dominated because he already has skills and intangibles. If you would use the #1 pick on a 3 and D guy then we have a difference in philosophy. I wouldn't do that. I do believe Jabari will be a very good scorer in the NBA and he'll get better over the years at getting to his spots. So in that sense, he will grow into generating his own offense. I don't think he will just be 3&D. He still could be a star don't get me wrong.
Paolo will need to be average on D for 80% of an NBA season. For the most crucial 20% of a season he will need to be above average. He will either need to cause turnovers or limit defensive lapses. He will need to be able to be an impactful defensive rebounder. He will need to be able to raise it up a bit in the playoffs. I think he can achieve this defensive profile. I'd be taking Paolo at 1 so obviously I want him at 3. Gotten to the point now where I haved watched a lot of games/souting vids. My updated rankings as combination of ceiling and just how I would draft. 1. Paolo 2. Chet 3. Ivey 4. Smith 5. Mathurin 6. Murray 7. Sharpe 8. Williams 9. Sochan 10. Eason 11. Daniels 12. Jalen Williams 13. Griffin 14. Duren 15. Davis 16. Lidell 17. Beauchamp
Ouch! But to be fair, Chet's college stats are better than all of those guys and he has combined skills that the rest of them don't. Noel and Daye probably the closest matches, but while Daye could hit 3's he didn't have the rebounds or blocks. While Noel had the blocks, he never shot a 3 and wasn't as good on the 2's, either. What would be interesting to see is how other players who have the numbers Chet does (no matter their size) ended up faring in the NBA. Edit: Here we go.
Basketball is a team game right, who cares if Jabari got dominated 1on1? Pretty sure Paul George will dominate Steph Curry 1 on 1 who do you think is the better player? In the NBA Jabari wont be asked to ISO, he'll be asked to defend the other team's best player and shoot open 3s. Of course thats not enough to select a guy no 1, thats where his intangibles like work ethic and ambition come to play. But being a 3nD shouldnt be a hindrance to him getting picked no1 cuz every team needs a 3nD and why not get one of the best available? If the other team has Davis Bertans defending your star and the opponent has Jabari defending him then obv your team gonna have a big edge. This is the reason why GSW is so good their 3nD guy just erupted for 37 pts. In Jabari's case his value is his "roleplayer" skillset at star level. That is extremely rare, because majority of stars in the NBA are a lot like Banchero. In fact outside of Klay Thompson and Khris Middleton I cant think of a star level roleplayer in the NBA right now. If you are building a team, you can get that creator or trade for a creator and then add Jabari to that you instantly have a step up on other teams.
Pretty soon Chet will be 99 lbs. Rounding down to push a narrative without any causal connections is cheap AF. FYI - Giannis was +185 lbs when drafted. Oh, Noel, Henson and Isaac are still making money in the NBA. One of them was actually paid near max recently. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Let's see who goes #1, you just might be surprised. In the interim, let's stop with the smears and just celebrate "our" guy.
I actually think fans over-rate Chet and it's very possible he drops to 3 or below. I see OKC making a surprising pick like the Raptors did with Barnes.
