Gun control is good. The reasons many give for shootings can be interpreted differently, depending on what you think is a racist or a stero-typed viewpoint.
No, it is far from perfect and there are a number of things that are not being handled properly such as housing for people that are homeless and quick substance abuse treatment. However, I can tell you that a lot of the homeless you physically see are not going to cooperate. They will take food resources, in some cases housing but they often do not want to leave the street and they do not want to take their medication. This isn't the majority of actual homeless but are the classic "bums" that people think of. Short of forcing their confinement we are limited... long term I can tell you that better mental health treatment in schooling will help, and that too has improved a lot over the last couple of decades. We as a nation are going to have to either accept that people are going to slip through the cracks and there will be threats or we will have to accept some form of stronger governmental control (i.e. the confinement of mentally ill homeless people).
Gun control is smart. Only idiots are against some form of increased gun control. There are more guns than people in the USA and homicide by gun is a huge problem.
Also people don't realize licensed sellers have a ton of paperwork. They have to show they processed guns in and out of their inventory legally. They have to show a background check on every sale. Now how often is that information actually checked is one of the problems. When they are caught selling off the books they will go to jail. I believe (I could be wrong) if someone holds and FFL license they can't legally do a private sale of their personal guns. A background check still has to be done.
And they surprised why Biden has the lowest support rate ever, this is why.... Everything is about their politics, nothing is ever about the people. Its not about the schools, the security or safety of the children and teachers. Its about their never endless quest to end or 2nd amendment right! They aren't worried about the children or the safety of this country.
You really have to twist facts to come up with that conclusion. The fact is that Democrats and most Americans want stricter gun laws to save lives. The fact is that when Republican say that more guns makes you safer they are wrong. That stance puts children at a higher risk of death or injury. That stance is anything but safety and protecting our children. Here's some facts: The U.S. is uniquely terrible at protecting children from gun violence Across the 29 countries in the study, the U.S. accounted for almost 97% of the firearm deaths among children 4 years old or younger, and 92% of firearm deaths for those between the ages of 5 and 14. Five years ago, just under 4,000 children and teens up to the age of 17 were killed or injured by gun violence, according to the Gun Violence Archive. By the end of last year, that number was up 43% to 5,692. Some 1,560 of these children and teenagers died. So far in 2022, at least 653 children and teens in the U.S. have been killed by guns. Another 1,609 children and teens have been injured by firearms, according to the archive. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/28/1101307932/texas-shooting-uvalde-gun-violence-children-teenagers The risk of homicide is three times higher when there are guns in the home. Not only that, but 58% of shooting deaths in children and teens are homicides. https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/at-home/Pages/Handguns-in-the-Home.aspx
The fact of the matter is, the gun problem in the United States is too big to be solved any time soon. There are more guns than people in the United States, the 2nd amendment is ingrained into the culture and constitution. The only way to solve the problems with guns in American society is to change the culture and laws incrementally. There are no realistic silver bullet solution. Only by step by step enacting enforceable effective common sense laws such as gun registration/licenses, universal background check, safety classes, increase liabilities for manufacturers and somehow changing the culture will there be any real change.
What are somethings we can all agree on? 1. Domestic Abusers should not be allowed to have guns. - Anyone got a problem with this one? 2. Substance Abusers should not be allowed to have guns. - Anyone got a problem with this one? 3. Convicted Criminals should not be allowed to have guns - Anyone got a problem with this one? 4. People with Diagnoses Mental Disease should not be allowed to have guns. - Anyone got a problem with this one? 5. Children should not be allowed to have "Certain Types of Guns" (i.e. AR-15s) - Children defined as under 21 - Anyone got a problem with this one? Add your own Rocket River
I could add a few more. Anyone charged with child neglect or child abuse should not be allowed to buy guns. Those are prime candidates for leaving guns lying around for the kids to get hold of or shooting someone in their family. Anyone charged with DUI's should not be allowed to own guns. If you would drink and drive you aren't responsible. Drinking while operating a firearm should be illegal. Using a firearm under the influence should be illegal. Nobody should be able to own a gun without taking a good n safety test and practical test, and then they must buy insurance and an annual license which can be revoked for any of the reasons listed above. If you care about safety and gun use, liability, and are a law abiding citizen I don't see how you would have a problem with that.
You should have to provide ID to buy a gun. You should be at least civilly liable if you make guns easily available to people who shouldn't have them.
You are already criminally liable if you knowingly provide a firearm to someone who is forbidden to own it.
Knowingly is the key word. Only the age restriction isn't protected by ignorance. You can sell someone a gun without asking ID or questions. You can leave a gun unlocked in your home and have your kid take it and shoot a friend. There are tons of loopholes. I own more than a few guns and I know stupid easy it is to obtain one even if I had a criminal record.
Strict liability is very rare in the law. Usually we have a mens rea element. You could have penalties for negligently providing a gun to a prohibited person or doing so recklessly. The big issue is that there is clearly someone that is more culpable for the damages than the person that provided the gun, and that is the person that used the gun. Criminal acts generally cut off liability. We don't charge or sue people that sell a car that is then used by a drunk driver to kill a kid, the driver is responsible. I certainly wouldn't want to be ruined because someone had a good enough fake ID to fool me and get through a background check. In the leaving the gun accessible to a kid situation, people can and have been convicted of child endangerment for such an act.
First of all, you don't even have to check ID and most people won't to avoid any liability. Secondly, it's seldom that parents get sued or punished for leaving guns out. I want mandatory liability in some form. At least put it on their record so they can't own a gun anymore. Gun laws are a walking loophole. Anyone that wants a gun can get a gun in the US. Just drive to the Texas and go to a gun show or get on Texas Gun Trader. Or drive to Virginia where you don't even have to be 18 to buy a bolt action without ID. A 13 year old kid can walk into any gunshow and buy a gun with no questions asked in Virginia.
I evision an America where we institutionalize people we fear before we actually take away guns from society.
I agree it's difficult to confine someone who doesn't want to be treated but dealing with someone who is mentally ill I know that frequently someone's mental illness is part of why they don't want to be treated. What we have now is a situation where many aren't even diagnosed with mental illness until they commit a crime and LE end up being the main route in dealing with many of the mentally ill.
Bars can be held liable for serving someone who later gets into a drunk driving accident. Parents and other adults are liable for buying alcohol to minors. Bars and liquor stores can be held liable even if someone bought alcohol using a fake ID.
