Center is, I think, more critical than a wing at this point--assuming Wood is traded. Before we pick, decisions have to be made about Bruno and Kabengele. Will Bruno be brought back? (I'd like to see it.) Does he fit in the building blueprint? (Maybe.) Is Kabengele a 10-minute or more option in the NBA? (Unlikely, I think--but maybe?) Are there better players in the draft, by trade, or through cheap free agency? Can't go into next season with Sengun as the only legit center on the roster. Need a plan for center before picking at 17.
Particularly if Williams is off the board, you're more likely to find a solid 3&D wing guy at 17 than a good center. It would be better to test out Bruno or Kabangele than reach for Kessler with the pick. Now if they traded back for Kessler to gain future draft capital that could be a solid move.
I mean Boozer was skilled but in the end he was a good player that made the ASG twice, let's not treat him as some lesser PF gawd. I feel that Anthony Mason could have been much better in the modern game for example. There are enough players that could have been better... Kukoc, Schrempf, Sam Perkins....and so on.
time to consolidate some assets... we got too many bodies - and rooks comin... lets package 17 with another contract or two and see if we can get somebody with greater potential impact outta the draft.
Yes and without private investigator(s) information, privilege to interview questions and answers, body language during said answers, height, weight, Vertical leap, health and injury history, work ethics......all we have are tidbits in which to form a baseline analysis. I've seen reports of Banchero weight being 235 lbs to 250 lbs. People posted Banchero touching his head at the rim from highschool. People also commenting how he lost vertical height since then as it looks like he gained 15 to 20 pounds since joining Duke. I can't disagree with their analysis. Since he only spent one season at Duke.....there is a possibility Banchero gained about 15 to 20 pounds in one year. I predicted Zion Williamson would gain excessive weight much like was it Marcus Russell as he turned bigger than his O-linemen. Through my college studies on Kinesiology I could see by the way he walked and stood that he had extremely tight Hip Flexors and tight back extensor muscles at age 19. He helped my prediction by loving to eat a full pizza washed down by soda. I didn't research Ja Morant because I had no interest in guards since we had so many and didn't think we would trade up in the draft. But I said I would rather pick RJ Barrett over Zion because of longer career and probably less injuries. I did miss on Rawle Akins being another Donavan Mitchell as they both seemed to have had much the same qualities with Mitchell being 6'1" while Akins was 6'4". Will and determination can be there or not. The body frame and skills were present. Some people have it or they don't. Mamadi Diakite was another one that looked very good to me in college but hasn't been able to put it together at the pro level. Again probably not living in the gym trying to succeed and working on weaknesses. Fultz was great in college, Jeremy Lamb, Shabazz Napier, Royce White, and scores of others have failed to miss the mark by scouts world wide. Easiest thing in the world is to criticize. This is why I don't like to express every little detail for people to latch on to. Tell me which players you have put your neck on the chopping block over? Or do you just criticize the critiques? Bouknight is a pick last year that people were high on.....I had him as Richard Hamilton.....and yes that body frame has him there or lesser. Not greater.
That's what I've been saying......others are acting insulted. I thought he was a solid consistent contributor. I would not want him as my number 1 or number 2 option......nor do I want Banchero as my number 1 or number 2 option.
Sorry I don't see Banchero anywhere near them. This is why I asked Cxbby if he thought Andre Drummond comp'd to James Worthy or Grant Hill. If the body frames don't match we can say anybody. Pistol Pete? Tiny Archibald?
Not intending to criticize you personally, just critical of the usefulness of comps in general...for all the reasons you mention. Particularly the failure to measure a guy's 'heart' and the bias we see on here all the time of comping players with similar skin tones, as if that somehow is related to their game. Your particular evolving comps were just a springboard to throw some peanuts from the gallery. Carry on, good man
Likewise. If I'm wrong, by all means call me out on it, because you know I'm going to toot my own horn if things don't translate over to the NBA. In two months I expect to be the best poster on Clutchfans. Lol (Chet)
If they like Dieng enough and are certain he'll be there at 17, would you advocate taking Ivey or Sharpe at 3?
Banchero does little on the defensive end and he isnt getting drafted cuz of his defense as well. Thats what you seem to be missing out on Doncic and Banchero arent defensive beasts but they do a lot on the offensive side including playmaking and 3 level scoring. Baldwin just shoots but doesnt really create for others so he is more limted than Doncic and Banchero offensively. Baldwin is just known for his shooting in high school but he has bad percentages in college and has nothing in common with either Doncic and Banchero other than his height. If he worked his ass off defensively I'd be a lot more comfortable taking him but defensive intensity is his weakness so I have no clue why the Rox should even look at him. Even if he has no space operate why didnt he try hard defensively? You got a dude who has bad intsngibles, bad percentages and bad athleticism no way in hell he could be another Doncic cmon man.
Disagree on Dieng. That guy has length and would be a great team defender at a position we, and the NBA, are really limited in. Would draft him with zero hesitation on defensive upside alone. The playmaking is a bonus.
I'd take Baldwin over Banchero easily. Only concern of mine is if Patrick needs surgery on his foot? If defense doesn't matter....it's Patrick all day You know nothing of the player except for stats he put up on a very bad team. This is what you can't seem to grasp. Put Banchero at the University of Milwaukee and Banchero is doing squat as the #1, #2 and #3 option offensively. Put Patrick Baldwin on Duke with AJ Griffin shooting 45% from 3 and Wendell Moore hitting 41% from 3 and Mark Williams accepting lob passes. Patrick would have killed it with space to actually put the ball on the floor and drive. Let me say this for the last time in BOLD for you....... LOOK AT THE VIDEO WITH BALDWIN AND CONCENTRATE ON HOW MANY DEFENDERS ARE CONVERGING ON HIM OR COLLAPSING ON HIM AND GIVING HIM NOOOOOO ROOOOOOOOOOOM TO DRIBBLE!!!!!!!!! BANCHERO NEVER GOT THAT TREATMENT No room to drive was a huge luxury Banchero had that Baldwin did not. It's right there on video for you. Take the time to watch it. Stop reciting stats of a guy that was a one man team with piss-poor players around him. They are meaningless stats. Here is a highlight video to make it easier for you. Look at just the defenders stuck to Baldwin like glue as far as 30 feet out. Then watch them jump towards him as double and trle teams as soon as he makes a move. Then ask yourself if when watching Banchero videos of Banchero gets the same respect?
Are people comparing Banchero to Doncic? If Paolo is ever a 9+ assist guy with 27+ pts I would be astonished. I don’t see him being that kind of ball handler, facilitator, or even have the ball in his hands on that type of usage on many teams.
