Duncan only played 5 near the end when they had Kwahi. When they had young Parker/Ginobli, he was absolutely a 4. Also, Otis was most definitely our #2 option after Dream.
I've said repeatedly that I think Bancharo can be a great player on a bad team, just like KG ...until he was surrounded by two perimeter scorers.
Otis avg 14ppg. I don't have the analytics on where he played but it was pretty fluid between 4 or 5. Anyway, I'm conceding that one.
Which is completely laughable because KG would have also been a great player on a great team. ALL bigs should be surrounded by at least 1 perimeter scorer, which is why your assertion that only Ivey is special whereas the others are not is a big head scratcher. This includes our very own Dream. There are way more NBA champions that had a wing/big as their top options compared to a stacked back court.
That is my opinion and will gladly put a big tip to the jar if he fails so I’m really high on this dude. Who’s victor ?
I advocate taking the BPA based on who I believe to be the BPA, but in a world where the BPA is a guy that isn't likely to ever be good enough to earn a starting spot over the guys the team currently has, I'd pass for someone just under that who actually fits with the team.
Man if we got the #2 pick non of this "we should take Jaden Ivey" talks would be happening right now.
I'm not sure that's true though. From what it seems, the Ivey people are just gung ho for undersized SG's, they'd probably want him #1 overall.
I remember last year people wanted to pass on Green and draft "Jaden Hardy" because he looks like an elite shooter like Steph curry.. then he proceed to be even worse then green in the g league.
Then that isn't BPA. So if you don't want to pick BPA, that is fine. Just admit it. Or if you believe Bancharo is a better player that Ivey, that's cool too. Just admit that. But you want your cake and eat it too. You want to say that Bancharo is a better fit but he may not be the BPA. That's the rub.
I never said that you always take bigs over guards. Here is my personal draft order 1: Chet 2: Ivey 3: Bancharo 4: Smith Notice I have a big at #1. I am simply saying that I don't have a bias towards taking a big over a guard, which is what I think a lot of folks seem to hold onto. Having a guard heavy roster, if they are good, is just fine. I don't take a big in the draft at #3 because they are a better fit. Take the BPA. Period. My personal opinion, and I could be proven wrong, is Ivey is better than Smith and Bancharo.
You're trying to make a complicated thing too basic. Are there 3 better prospects than Ivey IMO? Absolutely, but if someone makes a case for Ivey, that's fine because I don't think he's that far behind them. Unfortunately for him though, we drafted a guy who plays his exact position, who plays the exact same style.....only is bigger and is better at literally everything. So do I want BPA? Absolutely based on who I perceive to be BPA, but I wouldn't want to go BPA if the person perceived to be BPA was a homeless man's Jalen Green and there was a big man of comparable value available. BPA only works when your team doesn't already have a better version of that player on the team already.
So what Everyone here is just talking basketball. NBA teams have millions of dollars trying to find the best players in the draft and still get it wrong.
Those of us that like Ivey on this team are not just Yahoo's that don't know much about basketball. Here Ivey is rated #1 on NBADraftNet big board and scored 99 https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jaden-ivey/ Read the evaluation (strengths/weaknesses) with #17 add defending big to go along with Garuba presence ___________________________________________________ Most of us that see Ivey doing well next to Jalen "Freakin" Green also see Porter sliding over to SF without hiccups. Porter was SF with Cavs (non facilitator) [ Peanut Butter]...PG with Rockets (as facilitator) [ Jelly ] >>>>>>>>>>> we just going to move him back to SF/facilitator [ Peanut Butter and Jelly ] Jaden and Jalen keep on keeping on as combo guards sharing the wealth with Porter
Yeah no **** KPJ/green have already shown they could be a high powered backcourt. Our forward position is embarrassing with to 6’5 players in Tate and KMJ I literally do not understand the brain function of individuals who think it would be better to waste a pick on another guard, who hasn’t proven ****, rather than the dominant forward we have been chasing for over a decade literally baffles me. Ivey stats in college weren’t good enough to spend a 3 pick on him when we have much more severe needs in terms of winning if you want to waste a 3rd pick on Ivey I don’t think you understand basketball
That would be me. I was wrong but still say Hardy is better player than he showed with Ignite. But as you can see, this draft is loaded with guards as most drafts are.
