1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2022 Midterms

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Xerobull, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    6,489
    Likes Received:
    4,713
    Anyone who makes it that far is going to be bought and sold. The whole system is awash in money, lobbyists and interest groups.
     
    ArtV likes this.
  2. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    72,902
    Likes Received:
    111,087
    https://theweek.com/joe-biden/1013532/the-trouble-with-running-against-the-maga-king

    The trouble with running against the 'MAGA King'
    by Samuel Goldman
    12:06 PM

    There's a memorable scene in the Coen Brother film O Brother Where Art Thou (2000) where the fictional Mississippi governor Pappy O'Daniel (inspired by the real Texas politician W. Lee O'Daniel) confronts assistants running his campaign for re-election. Facing a surging opponent, O'Daniel demands new ideas to turn the race around. When his dimwitted son suggests "people like that reform, maybe we should get us some," the governor explodes. "Reform, you soft-headed sumb---h? How we gonna run reform when we're the damn incumbent?"

    Democrats find themselves in a comparable situation today. Facing dim prospects in the upcoming midterm elections, President Biden has tried to redirect attention from his own record to Donald Trump. "This is not your father's Republican Party. This is a MAGA party," he said at a press conference last week. In a speech on Wednesday, he described Trump as "the great MAGA king."

    To be fair, the president doesn't have a lot of cards to play. With low approval and the economy, crime, and immigration among voters' top concerns, it's hard for Biden to depict his administration as a success. In a post defending the MAGA gambit, Timothy Noah argues that Biden's "low numbers are seriously unfair," citing the relative success of U.S. policy on Ukraine and some favorable economic data. The problem is that these issues are either low salience or counterbalanced by other factors, above all, rampant inflation.

    More generally, appeals to negative partisanship are more successful for challengers than incumbents. For most voters, the risks of a shift in power are speculative. The difficulties associated with the status quo, by contrast, are very real. That includes problems for which the president has little direct responsibility. It may not be altogether fair to blame Biden for the shortage of baby formula, to cite just one vivid example. But that's how politics works, no matter who occupies the White House.

    Voters' habit of turning against the president explains why the incumbent party has faced major losses almost every midterm election since the Civil War. Over the last three decades, the president's party experienced huge losses in 1994, 2010, and 2018. The main recent exception is 2002, when Republicans gained seats in both Houses of Congress in the wake of 9/11. But Democrats made up for it in 2006, when they regained the majority in both chambers.

    Beyond the historical pattern, Terry MacAuliffe's failed bid for governor of Virginia last year shows the specific limitation of a Trump-focused campaign in a race where Trump is not actually on the ballot. To many voters, appeals to the legitimacy of elections or denunciations of the Jan. 6 riots are too abstract and retrospective to matter very much.

    It's possible that Democrats will gain some benefits from the apparently doomed precedent of Roe v. Wade, which a majority of the public supports in principle. But the most passionate supporters of abortion have long since become loyal Democrats. And the party's maximalist strategy on the issue seems more likely to thrill progressive activists than to attract moderates who view abortion as a generally bad thing that is tragically justified in certain cases.

    It's understandable that Biden is trying to whip up antipathy against Trump and MAGA, then. It's just not very likely to help. After half a century in politics, Biden knows that he's in the same tough spot as Pappy O'Daniel, but he and his party are out of ideas. Maybe he should try endorsing The Soggy Bottom Boys.



     
    Hakeemtheking and ArtV like this.
  3. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2002
    Messages:
    25,397
    Likes Received:
    13,270
    Putting aside if Bernie Sanders would be a good president policy wise. Unless I am mistaken he was not. If there could be more men and women like that it would help.
     
    CrazyJoeDavola likes this.
  4. ArtV

    ArtV Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    6,890
    Likes Received:
    1,499
    Agree. I think everyone should get a single 6 year term. After that, you need to get back to work. That way you aren't trying to money grab for your re-election campaign day 1. That and get rid of lobbying. That's just legalized bribery.
     
    ROCKSS likes this.
  5. thegary

    thegary Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    10,166
    Likes Received:
    2,150
    Fully on board with term limits. They should be civil servants, nothing more.
     
  6. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    I noticed you said closest which shows you are slanting things and I have to think you are talking Diesel or premium, because just got up to 4.00 where I live and Houston is always cheaper.

    You have to be a new adult to think this is the most brutal economic conditions you have ever witnessed.

    You want to tell us how Biden is affecting rents or how can gov get rents to go down?
     
  7. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    let's just agree to disagree, and it might not fire up the base, but it sure does not turn them off, and the younger voters have been asking for a little fight.

    Biden can't afford to be above the fray, and it killed Obama in the midterms.
     
    ROCKSS likes this.
  8. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Man it sure seems like Republicans are trying to talk themselves into thinking it's all doom and gloom for Democrats.

    They seem to think that using the word MAGA automatically means trump, and it's not like Trump died or will not be in influential in this race.

    Hell, he could run again.

    Are we supposed to believe that everybody just forgot about Trump and his MAGA crowd?
     
  9. MojoMan

    MojoMan Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Messages:
    7,746
    Likes Received:
    2,153
  10. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    Messages:
    19,642
    Likes Received:
    25,560
    Well hopefully the next candidate changes their minds. We already know Trump isn't the answer to getting us on the right track, unless it's a track straight into an abyss of deceit and lies oozing with QAnon kooks, right wing radicals, and hate spewing traitors to democracy.
     
    Invisible Fan likes this.
  11. MojoMan

    MojoMan Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Messages:
    7,746
    Likes Received:
    2,153
    Court-drawn House map could devastate Democratic chances in midterm elections

    "The new NY map proposed by court-appointed special master Jonathan Cervas leans into competitiveness," Dave Wasserman, a national elections analyst for Cook Political Report, tweeted. "Not unexpected, but this NY map is pretty bad news for Democrats. With so many competitive seats, it's not hard to envision a 16D-10R (or even 15D-11R) split on a great GOP night, which is a far cry from the 22D-4R rout Dems initially tried to gerrymander."

    Both parties have been eyeing redistricting in New York due to the narrow balance of power in the House. Republicans need to win five seats to reclaim the majority they lost in 2018.

    Democrats currently hold a 19-8 majority of the state's congressional seats, but the Empire State lost a seat due to slow population growth ahead of the most recent census. Now that the special master has released his proposal, the court will decide whether to enact the map or make adjustments. The court is expected to finalize the map by Friday.
     
  12. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    72,902
    Likes Received:
    111,087
     
    MojoMan and Astrodome like this.
  13. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    53,930
    Likes Received:
    41,889
    Lt. Gov. John Fetterman is leading the PA Democratic Senate primary but has suffered a stroke.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/us/politics/john-fetterman-stroke.html
    Fetterman Recovering After Stroke Before His Senate Primary
    John Fetterman, the Pennsylvania lieutenant governor who is running for the state’s Democratic Senate nomination, canceled events on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

    Lt. Gov. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, the front-runner for his state’s Democratic Senate nomination, said on Sunday that he had had a stroke on Friday and was recovering.

    “I had a stroke that was caused by a clot from my heart being in an A-fib rhythm for too long,” he said in a statement from Penn Medicine Lancaster General Hospital. “The amazing doctors here were able to quickly and completely remove the clot, reversing the stroke, they got my heart under control as well.”

    The incident has kept him off the campaign trail for the final weekend before Tuesday’s primary election in one of the nation’s most closely watched Senate contests. It was unclear when he would return to in-person campaigning.

    “The good news is I’m feeling much better, and the doctors tell me I didn’t suffer any cognitive damage,” he said. “I’m well on my way to a full recovery.”

    “They’re keeping me here for now for observation, but I should be out of here sometime soon,” he added.

    Mr. Fetterman had been scheduled to host a meet-and-greet in Lancaster County, Pa., on Friday morning, but his spokesman, Joe Calvello, said at the time that the team decided to cancel the event because “John was not feeling well this morning so we are taking the necessary precautions.”

    The campaign canceled events across the state on Friday evening, Saturday morning and again on Sunday, but gave scant information about the state of Mr. Fetterman’s health over the weekend. Asked why the campaign waited days to share the news that a major Senate candidate had been hospitalized with a stroke, a matter of intense public interest, Mr. Calvello replied, “John’s condition was evolving in real time since Friday. We wanted to put out something once we had a clearer picture of his health.”

    In the statement and in a brief accompanying video, Mr. Fetterman said he had been feeling unwell and that his wife, Gisele Barreto Fetterman, had insisted he go to the hospital to get checked out.

    The development upended his ability to engage voters in-person during the most intense stretch of the race. Still, he has been leading his most prominent Democratic rival, Representative Conor Lamb, by double digits in sparse public polling.

    “I just found out on live TV that Lieutenant Governor Fetterman suffered a stroke,” Mr. Lamb wrote on Twitter. Referring to his wife, he continued, “Hayley and I are keeping John and his family in our prayers and wishing him a full and speedy recovery.”

    State Representative Malcolm Kenyatta, a Senate candidate from Philadelphia, said his “prayers are with him and his family as he recovers from this stroke. I look forward to seeing him back on the campaign trail soon.”

    And Mehmet Oz, the celebrity doctor and Republican Senate candidate, said that he had “cared for atrial fibrillation patients and witnessed the miracles of modern medicine in the treatment of strokes.”

    “I am thankful that you received care so quickly,” he said. “My whole family is praying for your speedy recovery.”

    Throughout the campaign, Mr. Fetterman’s blunt-spoken liberal politics and penchant for wearing shorts and hoodies at public events appear to have resonated with much of the Democratic base.

    “If somebody thinks I’m smarter if I’m in a suit, so be it,” Mr. Fetterman said in an interview on Thursday after an event in York, his hometown, where he had given an energetic stump speech and worked a crowded bar. “I would rather have people know what they’re getting and this is who I am.”

    Senator Ben Ray Luján, a New Mexico Democrat, had a stroke earlier this year and has spoken about his difficult path to recovery. It was not immediately clear what Mr. Fetterman’s rehabilitation process would look like.

    “The doctors have assured me that I’ll be able to get back on the trail, but first I need to take a minute, get some rest, and recover,” he said.
     
    Xerobull likes this.
  14. MojoMan

    MojoMan Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Messages:
    7,746
    Likes Received:
    2,153
  15. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    34,107
    Likes Received:
    13,494
    Sounds like good news.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    53,930
    Likes Received:
    41,889
    FranchiseBlade and ROCKSS like this.
  17. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    53,930
    Likes Received:
    41,889
    PA Republican primary too close to call in the Senate between Dr. Oz and David McCormack. Kathy Barnette running a distant third.

    Lt. Gov. John Fettermen won easily over Rep. Connor Lamb.

    PA Republican primary won by State Senator Doug Mastriano who is a leading denier of that Trump lost the 2020 election. He will face State AG Josh Shapiro who ran unopposed. Abortion is likely to be the biggest issue for the general election.
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  18. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    50,204
    Likes Received:
    40,912
    With Beasley and Fetterman winning I think the Democrats have a soild chance at keeping Senate, they might not be favored because of the midterm momentum the GOP has but those are going to be very competitive races for the GOP (at least I think so) and races the GOP NEEDS to win in order to take the Senate.
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  19. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    6,489
    Likes Received:
    4,713


    Thought this was an interesting watch
     
  20. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    61,470
    Likes Received:
    28,953
    I seriously think the Demos are gonna take a beating.
    They lack branding and marketing.
    They just not good at getting their message and accomplishments out

    Rocket River
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now