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Inflation at its highest in 40 years…

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, Dec 10, 2021.

  1. tinman

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    Got an B in economics at UT
    Which is like a A+ at other schools
     
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    DD ran a business. Which makes him just as qualified as Trump :cool:
     
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    Economists are saying that the current (global) inflation problem is a confluence of factors including in large part a supply side shortage, not a monetary or primarily a consumer demand one. The stimulus was a contributing factor, but it's definitely not one policy decision made by one president of one country.
     
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    @Major

    JUST KIDDING.

    @Major is pretty clueless.

    I have an MBA from the no. 1 ranked business school. Doesn't mean I know everything either. But I do know that printing money Venezuela style is probably not the way to go.
     
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    Correct. Its decades of global policies. Its not one person or one event or one policy or one country. Nobody can truly understand all things when it comes to economics.

    Do you follow Jeff Snider and Emil Kalenowski?
     
  6. jiggyfly

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    Just because they say that in the email does not make it so.

    Who exactly is printing money Venezuela style?
     
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    It's certainly not a good idea, but it's also not the cause of any of our current inflation problems. This is still all supply-chain driven (that includes physical supply chains and labor shortages). Notice that despite all the money printing, the dollar is skyrocketing in value - both in comparison to other fiat currencies and relative to supposed inflation hedges like gold and bitcoin. If this was driven by too much money printing, you'd see the opposite. Even if you believe it's too much money printing all over the globe, you should still see things like gold going up relative to fiat currencies.

    Fix the supply chains and the current inflation will go away. Unfortunately, that's harder done than said because a lot of things have broken at once, and our system isn't really built to handle that.
     
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    I don't follow anyone in particular, just pay attention to things over the years as many stock prices / investments I have are sensitive to these factors.
     
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    you have a MBA

    they have PHDs



    PLAYA HATING DEGREES
     
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    I can teach a Masterclass on economics, and have done so in numerous brilliant works on this very website.
     
  12. tinman

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    wait how can you teach suckers Economics on the D&D?
    they can't even pass Art History
    @Os Trigonum
    @basso
    @J.R.
     
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    I mean it is possible to understand this concept called “Supply and Demand”…. I think…
     
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    UK getting rekt.

    I guess Pelosi and JPow's helicopter dollars pound pound pounded the pound.

    UK Is About to Become Stagflation Nation
    The nation put cost-cutting ahead of investment for years. Now the bill is coming due.
    In a world reeling from soaring inflation and weak growth, the UK holds a special place. It’s on track to be the advanced nations’ stagflation capital. Prices are expected to rise 13.1% over this year and next, the most in the Group of Seven, and the UK will drop to the bottom of the pack for growth in 2023, according to the International Monetary Fund. The National Institute of Economic & Social Research reckons the country will be in recession before next year.

    It’s a curious form of exceptionalism but one that’s become all too familiar. Whenever a squall in the global economy lands on the shores of the UK, it has a tendency to turn into a tempest. The collapse in 2020 after Covid-19 struck was the deepest of the G-7. Fourteen years after the 2008 financial crisis, the government still owns 48% of NatWest Group Plc, the rebranded Royal Bank of Scotland. The US, where it all started, moved on long ago.

    When trouble strikes, the UK ends up sprawled on the canvas because, more than others, its economy lacks resilience. It’s a lesson in the dangers of just-in-time hyperefficiency, a culture focused more on cutting costs than on investing for the future. Never has that been more apparent than now. The UK’s inflation shock will be nastier than in the US and Europe, says Alfred Kammer, the IMF’s European director, because it combines “the worst of the two worlds”—America’s labor shortages and Europe’s energy crisis. Both can be traced to structural capacity shortages.

    Almost half of the UK’s gas is domestic, sourced from the North Sea, but there’s no storage. Rough, the last major facility, was closed in 2017 because it had become “uneconomic,” according to its owner. This, combined with a laissez-faire approach to energy security that’s put almost half the country’s nuclear power capacity on track to be decommissioned by 2024—two years before any replacement comes onstream—has left the UK exposed to the whims of the spot price in energy markets. High fuel prices are punishing households and spurring the cost-of-living crisis.

    It’s not hard to see what the alternative might’ve been. In the past few weeks the UK has imported so much liquefied natural gas (LNG) that it has more than it can use. The UK’s gas price is now a third lower than continental Europe’s. Were Rough still open, the energy shock would be less severe. The crisis is partially self-inflicted.

    A similar story can be told about the tight labor market. Michael Saunders, a member of the Bank of England’s rate-setting Monetary Policy Committee, on May 9 said it was “possible that Brexit has steepened the wage and price curves” by reducing labor supply and curtailing some imports.

    The labor market is now so tight that, for the first time ever, there are more job vacancies than there are unemployed. Since the start of the pandemic, the workforce has shrunk by 440,000. Almost half the decline can be accounted for by a drop in EU workers. Former Monetary Policy Committee member Adam Posen told members of Parliament on May 11, “A substantial majority of the inflation differential for the UK over the euro area is due to Brexit.” Leaving the European Union, Britain exposed its over-reliance on cheap migrant labor.

    The Covid recession in 2020 also showed the danger of short-sightedness. The government’s lockdown policy was meant to prevent the National Health Service from being overwhelmed. Years of underspending, relative to gross domestic product per capita, had stretched the NHS to its limits. With little give in the system, lockdowns had to be extended to prevent even more deaths.

    Undercapacity was to blame again with regard to the stockpile of personal protective equipment, much of which had degraded before Covid. In the global scramble for supplies, the UK overpaid to such an extent that it wrote off £4.7 billion ($5.9 billion) in “inflated prices” and a half-billion pounds in unusable gear, the Department of Health and Social Care later said.

    Turn the clock back further, and the same lack of resilience was true of UK banks. In 2008 they were running on fumes. RBS’s equity capital was so thin that losses of only £1.97 on every £100 of loans were enough to bankrupt the lender, the UK financial regulator later calculated. Banks around the world were undercapitalized, but the UK’s biggest was the worst.

    Connect the dots on the biggest economic issues.Dive into the risks driving markets, spending and saving with The Everything Risk by Ed Harrison.
    UK business in general embodies this trimmed-to-the-bone approach, choosing to cut costs rather than invest in growth. Businesses invest only 10% of GDP in the UK, vs. 14% in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, and spend a third less training staff. One European industrialist put it this way: When the Germans see a shiny new machine, they want it; when the Brits see it, they ask how much it costs.

    The government set the tone in the 1980s when it sold off the family silver to pay its bills. Companies were privatized and social housing sold sometimes “below their retention value,” Richard Hughes, now chairman of the government’s fiscal watchdog, the Office for Budget Responsibility, wrote in 2019.

    Such short-termism has left public-sector net worth, a measure of long-term fiscal sustainability, deeply negative. The value of the UK’s liabilities is about £2.2 trillion greater than the value of its assets. With the exception of Italy, no other G-7 government owes that much more than it owns.

    Along the way, the UK has learned how to make markets work for it. Like the US, it teamed up with the private sector to focus capitalism’s animal spirits on the task of delivering a Covid vaccine. The UK’s success and speed of rollout lay behind the fastest economic rebound of the G-7 in 2021. The recent success the UK has had importing LNG is another example. Andrew Bailey, the BOE governor, even drew parallels between the surge in gas imports and the vaccine task force, calling on May 5 for an equivalent laserlike “focus on the resilience of energy supply.”

    When conditions are perfect, the open-market economic efficiency of the UK is a virtue, delivering growth that tends to outpace that of its European peers. But during shocks such as these, the UK pays a price.


    IMF’s Projected CPI Inflation

    2022-23 two-year average
     

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    **** I missed the news cycle for new tax bill turned into law. Must have been in a coma.
     
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  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    The UK has 9% inflation, damnit Joe Biden........

    Sarcasm intended.

    DD
     
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