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Jazz in dysfunction

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DaBeard, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. SamFisher

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    I actually think it would be crazy for the Jazz to try to run the same clearly not good enough core back after trying for so many years.. especially with Ainge as new Gm.

    The trade demands be are probably kind of face saving in the very likely event one or both are traded, though i don't doubt Mitchell was never going to stay in Utah long term anyway
     
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    Unfortunately, that's how much the game had changed. I feel like just about any other center with Gobert's size and skill set in the course of NBA would also struggle.

    Centers aren't really taught or ever expected to switch alot, especially onto to perimeter wings. I feel like Yao, Mutombo, Ewing, Shaq, and many others would struggle in this area. I think Dwight adjusted ok, but even he could be taken out of different situations.

    They were rarely, if ever expected to do this often, but because so many teams use the pick n roll or have efficient (volume) 3 point shooting offenses. Your center has to be able to switch, guard the perimeter, and keep teams honest in the post.

    For Gobert, the funny thing is, compared to most centers, historically, he's actually one of the better ones in these areas of defense. Am I saying he's better than these players? Not at all, but in the way the game is played in the modern NBA. He's probably a slightly defense player in these scenarios.
     
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    Time for the Jazz to blow it up. Try to replace one giant Frenchman with another. Gobert would be great on the Mavs. They're already a great defense and he could make them elite on that end for like 30 Mins a game. Easily swap him out and play small when the match up demands. With his contract, Mavs probably just need to send like a couple picks and cap relief.

    Send Conley to the Lakers or something for Russ then cut him. Trade Mitchell or have him fake an injury. Blow it all up.
     
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    Gobert making demands…this is too funny

    Jazz GM after Gobert opens his mouth

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  5. ElPigto

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    Now he is dealing with Danny Ainge as well. Ainge is as greedy as they come.
     
  6. RedIsen

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    Max contract, offensively challenged, 3x DPOY needs other good defenders around him to not be a defensive liability.
     
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    would you trade Sengun or Wood for Gobert? I'm just asking! It's a question.
     
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    Maybe Charlotte will trade for Gobert, they can have a Gordon Hayward reunion
     
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    42120846-2543-4587-AFF0-3527CC5A3A3B.jpeg
     
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    I can see a small percentage chance that ownership makes the worst decision and tries to scapegoat Snyder and run back the same core, although that seems less likely now that Gobert is talking openly. Fans have been blaming Snyder for playoff performances until this year, now for the first time Mitchell is taking some scrutiny for poor defense and losing a step. Maybe it's time to blow it up. After taking so much flak for the Rockets current rebuild, that would amuse me greatly.
     
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    If we were a WCF team who needed that piece, sure. Any other scenario? No. Gobert is too expensive for what he provides. The Jazz have always overpaid him and have reaped the rewards of trying to build a roster around his deficiencies mixed with his cap hit.
     
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    One of his major problems is he gives you nothing on offense. He has a Dwight-esque offensive game.
     
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    always sad to see the spazz struggle. they're such a great professional team, especially all throughout the 90s-00s
     
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    How can a guy "lose a step" when he's only 25 years old? A lot of players don't start their prime until 26 or 27.
     
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    Nope as a big you’d better be able to either guard the perimeter on switches or be able to create your own offense. Gobert does neither.
     
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    Stop it. Ain't no way

    You musta been hittin that Henny this week.
     
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    For some reason Donovan Mitchell, 2nd Banana, sounds more dangerous for the NBA than Donovan Mitchell, 1st Banana.
     
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