You should look it up. Bull and cow are male and female. I wouldn’t want to milk the wrong kind of cow in your world
OK. Then the next question is if I use "man" or "woman" to refer to a person by their gender (identity) rather than their sex (chromosomes), am I committing a scientific error, or am I simply adopting different vocabulary compared to another person who uses it in reference to sex? This is where the debate went, where the other person was insisting it was a scientific error and I was insisting it was just a difference in vocabulary/convention.
I understand your first post better now. Common language and scientific language are different. The same word can have a different meaning depending on the context. So calling someone their preferred identity is certainly not unscientific.
Wait wut? You just said acknowledged there are male and female cows, which is my entire point. cow | Description & Facts - Encyclopedia Britannica https://www.britannica.com › animal › cow cow, in common parlance, a domestic bovine, regardless of sex and age, usually of the species
This thread is giving me the urge to re-read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. You say you teach rhetoric, Mr. Phaedrus?
Do we know whether or not other animals that exhibit some self-awareness also have a “gender identity” that is distinct from their biological sex? Interesting article on this question: https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/is-gender-identity-unique-to-humans
I'm too busy scrubbing female from my vocabulary; outside of the broader consideration of gender over sex assignment, haven't heard a more substantive argument against it than being called a black "neckbeard" or some weird Ferengi quotes, but too many white women in pantsuits with their natural hair color and no piercings are reacting to it to risk the next twenty years of W2s.
It's an ideological statement, not a scientific statement (unless it purports to have some basis in science)
The concept that a person can self identify as anything they want is . . .. problematic. Rocket River
These are the kinds of debates that happen in a country that has no great war or depression or true adversity to pull us together. Its like apocalypse now. “every minute he’s in the jungle he gets stronger while every minute in here I get weaker” I am reminded of Rome before the fall. we are walking around wondering if a penis is a penis. We are ripe for the picking.
[ This recent podcast has some good stuff on that question. https://www.preposterousuniverse.co...ns-de-waal-on-culture-and-gender-in-primates/
“Gender” in many ways is a cultural definition. “Identity” by definition is subjective to an individual. “Sex” doesn’t have biological definition based upon chromosome and other differences having. To do with reporoduction but even there it’s not clear cut. There are many species where sex isn’t fixed and depending on environmental conditions. Can change sex. There are species that are hermaphrodites and many species that aren’t specifically sexed. Even among humans there is biological variation with biologically intersexed individuals. and if we just consider reproductive roles there are plenty of humans who can’t or chose not to reproduce.
