https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...episode-1-jerry-buss-magic-johnson-binge-sesh Maddox: There was an L.A. Times article from 1980 that estimated between 40% and 75% of players in the NBA were using coke at the time. And this article has some incredible quotes. One was from a player that had just retired from the NBA the year before. And he says, quote, “Coke is rampant in the league, man. I mean, 75% use it. It’s like drinking water. You hit the blow (sniff cocaine) to be sociable.” But I don’t know why “sniff cocaine” is in parentheses there. Someone convince me that the Rockets were not scapegoated by David Stern in the 80s for a leaguewide issue. Granted, those suspensions probably got Lucas, Wiggins, and Lloyd to clean up...
Sidebar: I wonder how LeBron feels about the play in tournament this year, given his Lakers would probably miss the playoffs in the old 8-team format.
Former Los Angeles Lakers executive Jerry West is demanding a retraction and an apology for what he called "a baseless and malicious assault" on his character in the HBO series "Winning Time," in a letter sent Tuesday evening by his legal team to the network and producer Adam McKay that was obtained by ESPN. West's lawyers allege that "Winning Time falsely and cruelly portrays Mr. West as an out-of-control, intoxicated rage-aholic," saying that "bears no resemblance to the real man." They ask for a retraction no later than two weeks from the receipt of the letter. "The portrayal of NBA icon and L.A. Lakers legend Jerry West in 'Winning Time' is fiction pretending to be fact -- a deliberately false characterization that has caused great distress to Jerry and his family," said Skip Miller, a partner at the Miller Barondess LLP law firm in Los Angeles and attorney for West. "Contrary to the baseless portrayal in the HBO series, Jerry had nothing but love for and harmony with the Lakers organization, and in particular owner Dr. Jerry Buss, during an era in which he assembled one of the greatest teams in NBA history. "Jerry West was an integral part of the Lakers and NBA's success. It is a travesty that HBO has knowingly demeaned him for shock value and the pursuit of ratings. As an act of common decency, HBO and the producers owe Jerry a public apology and at the very least should retract their baseless and defamatory portrayal of him." West's lawyers said HBO's disclaimer that the series is a dramatization does not insulate the network from liability. HBO did not immediately respond to or comment on West's letter. The series, which has been airing on Sunday nights this spring on HBO, is based on author Jeff Pearlman's book "Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley, and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty of the 1980s." West's lawyers allege that the series creators acted with "legal malice" because many scenes in the series showing West's purported rage did not appear in Pearlman's book and did not happen. The letter includes statements from former players such as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Cooper and Jamaal Wilkes, as well as Lakers employees such as Claire Rothman, Charlene Kenney, Bob Steiner and Mitch Kupchak who worked with West during the time period covered in the show, denying that they ever saw him commit any of the rage-filled acts or drink alcohol in the office, as depicted in the series. "Instead of exploring his issues with compassion as a way to better understand the man, they turn him into a Wile E. Coyote cartoon to be laughed at," Abdul-Jabbar said in a statement. "He never broke golf clubs, he didn't throw his trophy through the window. Sure, those actions make dramatic moments, but they reek of facile exploitation of the man rather than exploration of character." Rothman, who ran operations at the Great Western Forum for over 20 years and is portrayed by Gaby Hoffmann in the series, said, "Jerry treated me and everyone else in the Lakers organization with dignity and respect. I never saw Jerry break or throw anything in anger or rage nor did I hear anyone ever say he did such things." Kupchak, now the Charlotte Hornets' general manager, played for the Lakers from 1981 to 1986 and then worked alongside West in the Lakers' front office from 1986 to 2000. "During my time with the Lakers as a player and in the front office, Jerry was always professional, even-keeled and soft-spoken," Kupchak said. "He was always positive and encouraging with me. I also found Jerry to be honest and sincere. I never saw or heard Jerry lose his temper with anyone. I also never saw or heard Jerry go on an angry rant or tirade, nor did I ever see or hear Jerry scream or yell at anyone. That was not his personality. Jerry is soft-spoken and does not like confrontation. He always keeps his composure and remains calm even when he has a disagreement with someone. Last, I've never heard or seen Jerry ever break or throw anything in anger." West's lawyers said he is due a retraction, an apology and damages from HBO and the show's producers because "the show goes out of its way to denigrate Jerry West despite his accomplishments as an executive." The letter goes on to cite the series' depiction of West's role in the drafting of Magic Johnson, saying it implies West had "personal animus" against Johnson and tried to "sabotage" his selection. West's lawyers said he only pointed out Sidney Moncrief's scoring ability and that the Lakers should consider him, while then-team owner Jack Kent Cooke had the final decision. "So instead of seeing the true Jerry West -- a brilliant GM who was the architect of one of the great NBA dynasties -- anyone who watched the show would be left with the false impression that West is incompetent, that he didn't want Magic Johnson. This is a fabrication," the letter says. "Contrary to the show, the book leaves readers with the true impression of Jerry as a brilliant and thoughtful GM. Your extreme departure from the book shows malice in your false portrayal."
but you know he'll have a redeeming arc that'll show his nicer side. the show is entertaining though. there are far worse things out there on tv
It just seems jarring because the characterization is so different from the quiet, composed way in which he usually presents himself. Apparently, people who know him have said that's how he was and has been as a GM too. So, I really don't understand the decision the writers or the actor made with how to present him. The show is trying to be "funny", I guess, but you can be funny and still treat your main characters as multi-dimensional, complicated human beings.
I dunno, haven't read the book, but maybe when he was a coach he was not all that calm? I mean he did quit.... DD
Agreed, but when I saw it, they have taken alot of things to very deep extreme. I've read old Laker books and bios about West and other Lakers. Which is why I always give a suspicious eye to biopics, or anything that's supposedly, "...based on a true story (or person)." Biopics make for great movies, but are poor sources for accurate information and portrayals. I think making someone look bad or worse than they actually are is very libelous and slanderous. Which can be taken to the court, because you are more or less defaming someone's character and presenting untrue facts or pretenses about them. But, if a person believes in misinformation, or feels that it should be protected speech, I can't change their minds, but the legal precedence is set, because people can be hurt by libel and slander beyond mere words.
Jerry had a great rep as GM and was the main reason he got those lopsided deals done. If he were more like Murry, Lakers would be overpaying for their shitshow.
Another thing that I don't like about how people bring this up in regards to the NBA, but not other sectors of life. Coke was pretty rampant in the 80s and part of the 90s. It was a go-to party drug, especially for the college kids, middle-class, and upper class Americans. If we are talking about celebrities, I would say that the numbers would accurately fall into that 30% - 75% range, easily. MLB Drug Trial (Pittsburgh Trial), occurred in 85. I honestly feel like they were scapegoated for a serious problem in MLB. NFL, no questions need to be addressed, since a good number of ex-players have admitted to doing it. I feel like it's almost a bad argument for a league that was struggling for many different reasons.
I think Funny is trumping accuracy Everyone is basically a caricature. The personalities and acting are not the things I focus on for accuracy The things like 1. He did quit. 2. Did he really have Elgin Baylor flying out to meet the team. etc etc etc Those could be verified .. . . . in the end I know MORE about their run/coming together than I did before HOWEVER I do have to seperate the facts from the crap Rocket River
