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Wall's expiring + picks for what young star

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Apr 11, 2022.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I personally do NOT want Gobert
     
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  2. Astrodome

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    Zion and filler for wall, wood, pick 17, 2025 bklyn pick
     
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    The return on $47.4 million contract is usually a 4 or 5 man return during the season.

    He's chance of trading Wall is to a team in the off season which is far below the cap.

    If he is with the team (roster) on opening day....just let the contract expire.
    You buy him out if he is being a cancer with the players; but he is away.
    At home chirping (let him cry), he got his money.

    He holds the key to his jail cell. Just take less money in a buyout.
     
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    You will not get a young star for Wall and picks. Period. Even as an expiring, Wall has little value, because someone has to pay him $47 million a year to eat up a ton of their cap room and perform like a $15 million a year player (and that might be generous). Your best bets for a Wall trade are the rumored Westbrook + assets deal with the Lakers or some poo poo platter type deal in which the Rockets get a bunch of lower level, overpaid players on short term or expiring deals. That, or taking on a bad contract on 2+ seasons, but that doesn't make any sense for the Rockets if they want to have cap room a year from now.

    To get someone like Gobert (which makes zero sense, btw, for Utah), you'd have to throw in an asset to just account for someone taking on Wall's contract and then add assets on top of it to get a player of Gobert's caliber. Is it worth taking all or most of the draft capital you got from Brooklyn and turning around and giving it to Utah to get rid of Wall and add Gobert in the process? No.
     
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    Nobody trades away a young star for picks and an expiring. C'mon - let's be realistic.
     
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    Idiot
     
  7. Rocket River

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    Looks like the Pacers maybe a target

    Rocket River
     
  8. ROXTXIA

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    "Stone says...."

    ...he has 1st round pick offers for Eric Gordon.

    ...he has 1st round pick offers for Oladipo
    (EDIT: thanks, ElPigto)

    ...he once dated Marisa Miller but dumped "that skanky ho" when she got too clingy.
     
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    He also had FRP offers for Victor Oladipo. Lol.
     
  10. ROXTXIA

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    You'd have to buy them a drink first.

    ba da boom, TSH! (high hat)
     
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    You're right. I'll edit my post!
     
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    He is a great liar.

    You know internally he is racking his brain on what da **** to do with his albatross contract or who da **** wants his ass.
     
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    yep and i am gonna use this opportunity to congratulate them on the championship they have just won in their imagination in 2029!
     
  14. steddinotayto

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    What pick(s) are we attaching to Wall or are we dreamcasting, putting everything on the table? If that's the case then:

    Brooklyn's 2022 1st
    Milwaukee's 2023 1st
    Houston's 2023 1st
    Wall
    Wood

    For

    Jaylen Brown
    Al Horford

    Before people kneejerk themselves into a frenzy this would essentially be a Brown for 3 1st rounders deal as Horford's contract expires at the end of next season just like Wall's and these 1st rounders are or might be mid to low value you picks so we're not surrendering anything that might end up being a top 5 pick if this team enters the play-in next year. You take the BPA with your top pick this year, let's say we get Holmgren, you have Horford as your back up center / vet presence, you have Brown start as your starting small forward for the next 7 years:

    Holmgren
    Sengun
    Brown
    Porter
    Green

    If Silas wants to play a vet in lieu of a rookie big (like he did with Sengun), Horford can easily slide into the starting center position and perform better than average, even with the height disadvantage. Brown locks down the 2-way player slot and can defend the other team's best player on most nights. That team should be at the very least a 32-35 win team on paper, pushing our 2023 pick to the mid-teens.

    What does Boston get out of this? A big that fills in a need for Boston alongside Tatum that probably comes at a cheaper cost than paying Brown moving forward. Wall becomes a huge expiring contract for them to enter the free agency market to build a more well rounded team around Tatum.
     
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  15. Yetti

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    You must be kidding !!! Its impossible! Y
     
  16. Phillyrocket

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    Yeah it would be something like this. You need Wall to take back a bad contract along with the star and then you need to add Wood and likely a Brooklyn pick.

    You need someone to declare they want out. Zion, KAT, etc.
     
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  17. DaDakota

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    No one is going to take on that contract.

    DD
     
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  18. JoeBarelyCares

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    Most likely scenario still remains the poo poo'd Wall for Westbrook trade. Straight up with no 2027 pick. Why? Westbrook would be less inclined to sit for a year and would probably give up $10 million or so in a buyout.
     
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    Define "young star" ... lol
     
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  20. thekad

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    You’re delusional.
     
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