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Former Astros Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by torque, Apr 4, 2016.

  1. jayfree

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    Dallas Keuchel is pitching 5th in the rotation after Vince Velasquez (former Astros who has a career 4.95 ERA and .413 winning %). Oh how the mighty have fallen.
     
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    btw, is it too early to put Goodrum and Baez on this thread ;)
     
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  3. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Considering he was never a power pitcher, it's surprising how much he fell off.
     
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    In Keuchel's last couple of years here,it felt like you could tell how his start would go based on his max velocity in the first inning.

    91? Look out for a complete game shutout (if he hits 92, look out!)
    89-90? Quality start
    87-88? Lucky if he makes it to the 5th

    Margin for error with a fastball in the 80s is just really, really low.
     
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    You mean Robel Garcia and Joe Smith?

    Oh wait..... wrong season. Just feels familiar....
     
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    While I'm not a huge fan of Niko he is nowhere near robel as a player.
    Niko Goodrum is a solid major league player.
    Baez is washed though, what a waste lol
     
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    Obviously it is early... my biggest problem thus far has been Goodrum's defense. He struggled in spring training and has an error already. I'm not sure I want him as the backup SS over Diaz and that is disappointing.
     
  8. jim1961

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    So does Carlos Correa

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/team/stats/_/type/fielding/name/min
     
  9. jayfree

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    But their former pitchers (outside of Cole) would barely get through 5 games without being injured or shelled.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Cole wasn't a farm hand...
     
  11. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Musgrove threw as many innings as Cole last year. Sandoval made 14 starts and had a decent ERA. Hauser averaged more than 5 inn/start over 26 starts with a 3.22 ERA.

    Guys excluded due to too old or pure sucking
    VV kind of sucked, but he made 20 something starts. Keuchel and Lyles predated the 2014 cutoff but they didn't pitch well either.

    With Hader in the pen, I'm confident one could assemble the not worst team in baseball with Astros castoffs.
     
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    Someone went from a 1st place division team to a last place division team. Got that $$ though!
     
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    Only the worst pitching staff in baseball.
     
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    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    The staff ace for the Pirates has a career 5.36 ERA. The years of winning has really jaded Astros fans on what a horrible team is really like.
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    I thought the Pirates got relegated?

    And if any team's fans over the age of 12 should remember what a horrible team is really like, it's the Astros.
     
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  16. Joe Joe

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    Dammit. Got me wanting the third season of Lasso to come out now.
     
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    I still blame Billy Crystal.
     

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