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Four-Day school week? It's happening in a Texas ISD.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Xerobull, Apr 7, 2022.

  1. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Jasper ISD losing teachers so they're going to a 4-day workweek. They're also paying bonuses.

    Teachers overall leaving the profession in droves, all-time low of teacher certs last year (per my wife).



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  2. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

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    So I guess some parents are going to have to find a new babysitter for at least one day out of the week?
     
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    As long as the fifth day is optional, and they use it for extracurricular / recreational stuff, I love the idea.

    If the idea is that they stay at home on the 5th day... then I don't like it.
     
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    An Optional 5th day for extracurricular would be awesome

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  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    The 5th day is off.....not the state's responsibility to babysit your kids.

    DD
     
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  6. Invisible Fan

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    Public school going to **** even more.

    Boujie people will vote for vouchers to take a load off private school.
     
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  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is so underfunded, we increase military spending like no one's business, but we make teachers making 30k a year buy their own ****ING pencils.

    This country and it's government is SO ****ED UP - we don't give two ***** for our people, we are deteriorating fast.......

    It is shocking how shitty our country has become.

    DD
     
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    Now let’s do the same for the work week. :)
     
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  9. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    It’s a four day week for the school district. Day five is not optional.

    We don’t have a choice on paying for public school with our taxes. It’s built in.

    The workplace is changing. Gig economy, remote work, flexible hours, performance based jobs.
    Child care will be another driver. But I doubt the business week will change from the classic 8-5 five days a week any time soon. That will be a generational change once the boomers are gone.

    My wife said even administrators in ISDs are leaving. She knows a principal who took a job at an online school for a 40% raise, 100% WFH.
     
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    I'm surprised it has not happened sooner, with the way salaries are rising it's no wonder teachers are looking around.

    If i was younger and had not already done the private sector thing I would be looking around, but I love what I do and this is one of the best working environments I have ever had, it took me a long time to realize how important that was.

    Now I am going to start looking around for something I can do part-time and online.

    Any ideas?
     
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  11. jiggyfly

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    This is fascinating, I don't think it changes much for actual teaching but the days have to be longer or school year longer because there is a set amount of hours that kids need to be in school for the year.
     
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  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    If they were using 180 days and now using 75600 minutes then that equates to 35 hours a week. So about 4 days at 8.75 hours per day.
     
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  13. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Lots of online education opportunities. Self-paced grade and college classes that need teachers.
     
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    Paywalled so I can't read the details in the article

    This

    If all of the work systems in the school district magically adopted a 4 day work week for the parents then I'd agree, but if that's not the case where does it leave parents? Not everybody can afford daycare, this policy could break people (therefore kids) without proper plans in place.
     
  15. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    The whole point of this change is to retain talent (teachers) by the ISD.

    Your argument is somewhat moot because there are several days a year when kids are off school during the work week.

    Markets adjust. There is a severe shortage of skilled labor; do you think a good company is going to balk at letting their workers do four 10s or flex their hours? Those companies are going to lose their best workers.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Maybe the parents should stop electing officials that **** THEM and start electing officials that represent the people

    Start paying teachers livable wages and unencumber them with bullshit Administrations practices.....

    DD
     
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    My favorite work schedule was 4-10s. This will prepare them for O & G life. Oh wait...
     
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    I don't know that it's 100% funding.

    Texas is pretty low on the funding side of things (https://kinder.rice.edu/urbanedge/2...nding-per-student-state-funding-schools-Texas) $9,606 per student on average (this was a few years ago). Many would agree that private schools are a better education, but that cost per student was $9,361 (https://www.click2houston.com/educa...age in Texas, it,your child to private school.) so almost the same.

    Other states spend more (but their costs are higher too with higher cost of living, and this is a state average, so tons of small towns in Texas). I think it's more correlated to how the money is spent (admin, paying for things that don't matter, etc - stuff like a water park - https://abc13.com/texas-water-park-school-la-joya-isd-funding/4162905/ ). And it's rampant spending all over the place, that isn't direct at the children.

    How do you fix that? I don't know. Should definitely be stricter on budgets and stop wasteful spending so that we can direct monies in a better manner (rewarding good teachers - not all teachers, better learning for kids, etc.).
     
  19. DaDakota

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    It is 100% about funding......

    It is having too many ADMINISTRATORS and not enough TEACHERS......

    The money should be going to the teachers, not to all those unnecessary administrators.

    My wife is a teacher, so this subject is very near and dear to me.....

    Bonuses are a decent idea - but who decides who gets a bonus and that can also demoralize as politics get involved in who gets it......

    The problem is the overbearing administrative rules that are in place, and the lack of freedom for teachers to teach the kids the best way they know how.....and that the pay is way too low.

    DD
     
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    oh

    My mom had to take off when I was sick in elementary, there’s a difference in taking off 5 days a year and having 36 days over 9 months on top of sick day/holidays

    You can have your ideals on what should happen in a market, but that’s from a plan to ensure there will be safety and no direct financial trouble from changing a schedule that has been a staple in this country for all of our lives with just a 4 month heads up.
     

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