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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Jugdish

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    If ether, leeches, and trepanning were good enough for my grandpappy, they're good enough for me, consarn it!
     
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  2. Commodore

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    child abuse

     
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  3. rocketsjudoka

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    I think I'm overdue for my annual trepanning. The humors of my head are clearly out of balance. ;)
     
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  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Over 6 million people aren't around today due to "natural infection".

    Millions more ARE around today due to the vaccine.
     
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    The question wasn't about infection instead of the vaccine - it was about whether you should get a shot after you already had an infection.
     
  6. Amiga

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    I would. Antibody response depends on viral load in their system, among other things. Vaccine-induced immunity is 'controlled' by how much dosage you get and over what timeframe for the most effective response (these variables have changed over time to maximize the effectiveness while reducing side effects). Natural infection is not "controlled" and it has a much wider gamut on onward protection. You may get amazing protection or close to zero.
     
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    Fauci disagreed with you.
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Do you have a citation for Fauci's disagreement regarding COVID?
     
  9. Amiga

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    I don’t know why you stated that. I recommend vaccination which I think is his recommendation.

    BTW you might not know the history here. Ever since Fauci made public statements that disagree with Trump ~2 years back, he has been smeared by ring wing media, politician, and Trump supporters. It continues today.
     
  10. durvasa

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    Are you talking about his statement wrt the flu or COVID?
     
  11. Amiga

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    If you want to see what a true hard lockdown is, look at what China is doing in a major modern city. If it's truly only for 4 days on each side of the city and they are successful, then credit to them. But I very much doubt they can contain the Omicron variant.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ai-placed-under-lockdown-as-covid-cases-surge

    Bloomberg News
    April 1, 2022, 9:43 PM CDTUpdated onApril 2, 2022, 5:44 AM CDT

    Shanghai’s 25 million residents are almost all under some form of lockdown as the financial hub struggles to contain the coronavirus’s highly contagious omicron variant.

    The eastern half of the mega Chinese city remains under tight movement restrictions despite the end of a four-day sweeping lockdown Friday morning, according to a government statement Saturday. That means the entire population of the metropolis is currently under some form of quarantine as the two-part lockdown shifted to the western half of Shanghai on Friday.

    Residents in the western part of the city, where about two-thirds of its population live, began their four-day lockdown at 3 a.m. local time on Friday as the program approached an end in the east. During the restrictions, residents are barred from leaving home except for mandatory mass Covid tests.

    Shanghai has emerged as the epicenter of China’s worst virus outbreak since the early days of the pandemic. The city’s daily infections shot up from less than five at the beginning of March to more than 6,300 Friday, official data showed.

    “At present, the epidemic situation is severe and complex, and the task of prevention and control is extremely arduous,” Wu Qianyu, an official at the Shanghai municipal health commission, said at a media briefing.

    He said the renewed surge in cases following a brief decline earlier this week is the result of wider Covid screening. Authorities tested more than 14 million people in the western half of the city Friday as part of two-round tests.

    The spread of the highly transmissible omicron strain to Shanghai -- home to the world’s largest container port and country headquarters of many domestic and overseas companies -- is the biggest test yet for President Xi Jinping’s dual goals of eliminating the virus while minimizing the economic and social impacts of a Covid Zero strategy. The worsening outbreak is further weighing on the world’s second-largest economy and threatening to disrupt global supply chains.

    Ghost Town

    Stringent implementation of lockdown measures has turned the once-booming city into a ghost town, with video footage posted by Chinese state media showing empty shopping streets usually thronged with people.

    While the lockdown of Shanghai’s east officially ended at 5 a.m. local time Friday, most residents were not able to leave their homes immediately under what the local government described as a tiered quarantine regime.

    People with mild or no symptoms are required to be put under compulsory central quarantine for treatment or monitoring at mostly makeshift facilities built in massive gymnasiums or exhibition centers around the city. If parents with young kids are sent to central quarantine, authorities will try to help find volunteers or staff to look after the children left behind, Zeng Qun, deputy head of Shanghai Civil Affairs Bureau said at a briefing.

    The rules also required anyone living in a building where a Covid case has been reported to stay confined in their home for two weeks. Residents of other buildings in the same compound as the block where a positive patient was reported will be subject to seven-day home quarantine.

    Residents living close to locked-down compounds will be confined to their neighborhood for a week, and limited to sending one person from each household out once a day to fetch necessities delivered to them.

    As of Saturday, all of the almost 9 million residents of the eastern half of the city were still subject to some form of restrictions, according to the official statement. Nearly 40% of Saturday’s newly reported infections in the city came from the eastern part, known as Pudong.

    — With assistance by Charlie Zhu, and Daniela Wei
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    The PRC lockdown strategy works for short term localized outbreaks but can't work for a pandemic level outbreak. This is why the PRC and HK was able to keep numbers low for much of the pandemic but they have exploded in the last few months. Such lockdowns are unsustainable for a variety of reasons.
     
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    PRC lockdown will never be "successful". It's totalitarian, dystopian and awful.
     
  14. Commodore

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    every one of these acts of petty tyranny adds up to hardened opposition to Biden

     
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  16. FranchiseBlade

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    Better than the Not-so-petty tyranny of trying to overthrow a free and fair election to keep power after being voted out by this populace and electors m
     
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    If you treat your children with such disregard and contempt as Biden is doing to toddlers and small children with his insane rules...they end up becoming Hunter Biden.
     
  18. Commodore

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    Wow. That's awful. And this guy seems like an arrogant dumbass.
     
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    This woman is a hero.
     
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