KPJ and NBA players who struggled with being professional

I agree. Will KPJ be worth the headache?

Once thing is certain, Silas sucks as a coach.

 

Most of them might be worth the trouble. KPJ right now is not.

I'm not watching the NBA long enough yet but i think most of these guys were problems off the court, right? KPJ is a problem on the court. He quits on his team way too often

 

Dont forget Ben Simmons, Stephen Marbury, Daryl Morey. Most of that list were great teammates and had experience to back it up.

 

We traded a good pro and locker room guy for Dennis Schroeder

out defense with theis , Tate , and kpj at the beginning of the year (with a weak green and still weak wood) was at least passable

we made it about 15-20 games of good effort and then started focusing on the tank / individual play .

We need a good vet signing over the offseason / trade

 

I don't want to have a knee-jerk reaction to KPJ during what is supposed to be a tank year. We need more data on both KPJ and Silas before we decide to move on. IMO, KPJ should be extended this offseason on the cheap for somewhere around 3 years $15M per year. If he doesn't become the player we need him to be during the 1st half of next season we can look to trade him before the deadline. Silas should be given all of next year to demonstrate improvement for the team. We should at least come close to making the play-in even if we don't actually make it (~35 wins would be good progress).

KPJ is still young and this is his first year playing PG. He was making progress up until recently and has demonstrated what he's capable of. He just needs to be more consistent.

 

You want to give KPJ $45 million dollars guaranteed? We should reward his asinine behavior by locking him up for the next 4 seasons at that salary? You think $15m/year is cheap?

He's under contract for next year already at $3.22m. There's zero urgency to extend him when he may not even be worth keeping, at all.

 

Add Zach Randolph and Jermaine O’Neal to that first group. It’s the reason they had to leave Portland. Also Rueben “Kobe stopper” Patterson

 

Or simply a list of people you don't like
people who didn't just shut up and dribble
people who did not cowtow to authority and be good little pawns?

Rocket River

 

I 100% do not disagree with the fact some people can turn it around and mature. He has problems and I wish him the best with his mental health. But....................................................As the Rockets starting point guard!?! Get him out of that role. Let him earn playing time back. Lets see how much he really wants it. I would personally send him on his way. If the Rockets see him being very valuable, then let him get some punishment and earn it back.

 

I don't see why not. The cap space will be there in 2023 when Wall, Wood, and Gordon are no longer part of the team. I think it's smart to extend KPJ this offseason for cheap to give him motivation. If things don't work out he can be dealt.

 

yet you mention race . .. . . let me check my post again

nope not one mention of race

You are just very authoritarian.
You believe in basically that owners and management should be able to control/smack down players
at a moments notice for "getting out of line" or "not towing the company line"
You not really seem to be interested in the HUMANS than play the game .. .
This is not EA Sports . . . .

What makes coaching/management special is managing people
without necessarily having to beat them into submission

Rocket River

 

Choking your coach should have you at 1.

Gilbert Arenas should have an honorable mention.

 

BTW - Define "Good Career"

Honestly if you last in the NBA more than 5 seasons . ..you had a good career

Rocket River

 

Sloppiest player I have witnessed in a long time.

Wood trying to play PG is just clowning us.

 

KPJ has the talent to succeed, but his mental state will be his downfall. Don't get me wrong, he will make more than enough money to live comfortably if he's being smart with it, but in terms of his NBA career, he's on thin ice and aproaching the end of excuses.

I know he's young and that he will mature as he ages, but I don't think he should be an integral part of the team. And that's where the main issue with him arises. We invested too much in him and gave him way too much freedom, and we can't roll it back now. If we demote him to the bench, he will most certainly throw a plate or two at the coaches/management, and then he will lose what little value he has left. If we are trying to trade him, don't expect a better return than what the Cavs got for him from us.

Hopefully another team rolls the dice on him and he cleans up his temper, because I would like him to beat his demons and succeed. But nor him or this team will get better if things stay as they are now.

 

KPJ is not good even when his mind is "right". This year he is an inefficient shooter and does not make plays for others. Not worth it.