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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Contributing Member
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    This criminal needs locked up! To support him is saying you support criminals. He will continue to break the law until he is finally charged and convicted.

     
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  2. adoo

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    Trump's 2024 hinting game sure looks like it's illegal

    Orange hair wants to have his cake and eat it too on a potential presidential run​

    A complaint has been filed to the Federal Election Commission---pointing out that this theoretical hinting act could be in violation of the campaign finance law---arguing that
    Trump is illegally spending political funds on a presidential campaign without officially declaring his candidacy.

    the complaint alleges that Trump is using rhetoric that signals that he is, in fact, running already
    but declining to formally declare his candidacy to avoid the restrictions regulations on
    his fundraising capacity that would kick in if he did.
    according to Liz Gilbert, the executive VP Public Citizen, a government watchdog group,

    "on its face, the combination of Trump's own statements about 2024 and his
    aggressive fundraising certainly could be enough evidence to trigger the standard
    for becoming a candidate for president under federal law"




     
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  3. Rocketball

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    Trump supporters, quick question, why do you guys even waste time responding on this D&D portion of the BBS… you are debating with those that are so far removed from reality, will believe everything they hear from twitter, MSNBC, NYT, Vanity Fair, and so much more, from the never tell the truth, main stream media. They never are wrong, your are never right, seems like a futile exercise to continue to go through….

    Bottom line, your arguing with a side that has so much positive things/people/record to brag about…. You have no chance in this discussion.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Anyone that supports Trump has ZERO integrity.

    DD
     
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  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I disagree with that. I have friends who support Trump and definitely have a high level of integrity.

    As much as I detest Trump and know him to be a wannabe Putin, I don't think it's productive to attack people for whom they support politically.
     
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  6. dachuda86

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    It's almost like a man who is a populist is being targeted by the elitist system we have in place...

    Trump Card 2024.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Sorry that is not true.

    You can't have integrity and support Trump.

    Real integrity requires you to be consistent and have integrity in all matters.

    If you support Trump you lack integrity.....

    There is no such thing as anyone supporting him and having true integrity.

    Integrity does not allow exceptions......

    DD
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    Nah, i dont think Trump wants blood on his hands like Putin. He'll delude himself into getting other people to do dirty work for him, but he'd rather tuck tail and flee than engage in a nasty conflict,

    It's just the way he calls that negotiating peace generally punts the issue to the next guy without any improvement from before he handled the mess.

    Maybe good, maybe bad...

    Berlusconi is still the best comparison for him.
     
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  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So, if the MSM never tells the truth, does that mean Fox never tells the truth?
     
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    Just give us a list of trusted sources so we can reform with better takes you agree with.
     
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  11. Blatz

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    lol "those that are so far removed from reality,"
     
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  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Someone can have the utmost integrity in their personal lives and yet mistakenly believe that Trump is a good person because they are misinformed. What you are doing here is projecting what you don't like about Trump onto anyone who votes or supports him. Not everyone is part of the tiki torch crowd. You can't write off nearly half the country. That's what many of them have done to liberals. If we start demonizing our fellow citizens, then we are truly playing into the hands of those who want America to fail.


    Putin was far more progressive when he was first president in 2001. He was actually a believer in democracy in the beginning and that slowly morphed over time. It wasn't the same kind of democracy as we think of it, but he understood that democracy was more enduring and stable in the long run (and doesn't end up with dictators losing their heads). He was initially a strong supporter of the US and was one of the first to support the US war on terrorism, in fact Russia rarely interfered in US foreign policy until relations between the US and Russia deteriorated under Bush (starting with the US withdrawing from the AMB).

    That doesn't mean it was our fault or anything, my point is that monsters are created, not born as we like to think. Power and other events took him to where he is today. He didn't start of mass murdering people. Neither did any of these tyrants. It's a slippery slope that comes with power and failure, and fear.

    Trump has all those elements. Extreme narcissism, massive amounts of fear, and an ease to distort reality to make himself the victim. That's the golden triad of most mass murderers and the only thing that would limit what he is capable of is that he is so old. We've seen what he can do in a short period of time with a little power, there's no doubt that over time he'd go down the same road and begin executing people. Like I said, it's a slippery slope and the only thing that would limit him is that he won't live that long.
     
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    That's something to worry about if Trump declares himself a 20 yr president for life.

    Or maybe after Don Ju takes the reins from a poison golden shower experience then morphs from sniveling Twitter sniper into hiring snipers for his political opponents, but that doesn't reconcile what he is right now with what I think he'd be during an unlimited term.
     
  14. deb4rockets

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    LOL, keep drinking that Kool-Aid. More like a raging sociopath who will lie, cheat and steal over and over and over and over, and his believers are his easy marks.
     
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  15. DaDakota

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    No they can't...sorry, too much information out there about his fake university, his fake children's charity, sex with a p*rn star, etc...etc....etc.....

    They are making excuses and exceptions because he was on their team - sorry, you can't have integrity and support Trump that is just not possible.

    If you support Donald Trump you lack Integrity and honor.

    DD
     
  16. deb4rockets

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    I can understand that at first, but honestly, not after four years of outright lies that we're proven to be false over and over and over. It is any voter's responsibility to at least question something that seems false, after someone has lied over and over.

    How can anyone not see the GOP is full of hypocrites when it comes to crime and pedophiles? I can understand being naive at first, but honestly, not after four years of outright lies that we're proven to be false over and over and over. It is any voter's responsibility to at least question something that seems false, after someone has lied over and over. Compulsive liars like Trump don't change their stripes. It's a trait of a sociopath.

    "The flu that would go away by spring" comments ended up killing far too many people who believed they weren't at risk, because Trump told them they weren't. They didn't social distance, didn't wear masks, and didn't get vaccinated. They believed Trump was the expert over pleading nurses, doctors, care workers, and medical experts.

    Then, the Jan 6th Capitol Storming should have been the biggest wake-up call! There are just far too many red flags ANYONE who really believes in supporting anyone with integrity and truth should see. Strong on crime? Only when it's not them. Against sex trafficking and pedophiles? Only when it's not them. Justice and equality for all? Laughable. Trump NEVER spoke out against whites killing or attacking those of color or LGBTQ. NEVER.

    I ask any GOP voter with any bit of morals and integrity, do you know you are supporting women beaters, child beaters, pedophiles, and adulterers? Does your Church and Bible say that it is OK to support these types of people as your chosen ones?

    GOP candidate Eric Greitens beat his wife & 3 year old & seized her phone. GOP candidate Herschel Walker’s ex wife accused him of choking her until she fainted. Trump-backed ex-candidate Sean Parnell beat his wife & kids.

    In the GOP violence against women is the norm not the exception. Also, If you believe Republicans on child p*rn then maybe you need a little reminder on how hypocritical they are.

    GOP Senators supported Trump after a 13-yr old girl credibly accused him of rape and he admitted wandering thru beauty pageant changing rooms to see naked teenage girls.

    Republican Senators supported Roy Moore, a guy who's boss move was calling up girls in 8th grade trig class to ask them out on dates.

    Republican Senators have never had a thing to say about the fact that the longest GOP Speaker of the House ever, Denny Hastert, went to prison for molesting teenage boys.

    Republican Senators currently have nothing to say about Matt Gaetz, credibly accused and likely soon to be indicted for trafficking teenage girls.

    Republican Senators also have nothing to say about Rep. Jim Jordan, who according to numerous sources knew his wrestlers were being fondled by a doc in the showers at OH State and chose to just ignore it.

    Trump betrayed his first wife with second wife, his second wife with third wife & cheated on his third wife with pornstar Stormy Daniels while his wife was nursing his son at home.

    Please Wake Up!
     
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  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Domestic abuse isn't unique to the Republican party. Plenty of democrats have been accused as well.

    Infidelity? Look no further than Bill Clinton.

    Both sides are full of hypocrites, abusers, adulterers, liars, money grabbers, etc.
     
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  18. deb4rockets

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    Bill Clinton is the choice of the party now? LOL He also didn't run again after what he did like Trump, who cheated on 3 different wives. There really is no comparison to who is running in the GOP. Oh, how many current Democrats attend White Nationalist rallies? Also, Biden spoke out against all violence black and white. Trump kept a mute mouth when it came to violence incited by whites on people of color and LGBTQ. You know the difference. Don't even try to justify that.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You don't have to convince me.

    The idea that someone who votes for Trump lacks integrity is exactly the way the right feels about you. That voting for liberals is evil.

    Can you accept that someone who believes in Jesus Christ has integrity? What about Muhammed or Krishna? Can you be an atheist and think that religious people lack integrity because they believe in lies? When to the atheist the truth is so obvious?

    The point is integrity has nothing to do with what you believe - whether it's the truth or not. Integrity has to do with how you operate in the world - it's something that describes behavior, not beliefs.

    So to say that someone lack integrity because they believe Trump is a force for good and votes for them is just finding a way to demonize those who disagree with you, and all you are doing is validating the anger that many of the right have when they say liberals sit in their ivory towers and look down on them.
     
  20. tinman

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    you should make a choice based on your own research and ideals.

    this reminds of a coworker situation in a state where they protest 'chik fil a' . A very LGBT coworker argued with another LGBT person about getting take out at Chik Fil A.
    Both are wokesters

    one told the other 'why would you support this company that has a ceo with these views?'
    the other one said 'I'm hungry and this chicken taste way better'

    people should not always think politically, in this situation, the person choose delicious chicken over burger king or mcdonalds
     

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