It's Time! Consolidation of Assets: Roster Spots Needed!

That should be your roster starting the 2024 season. That team should be title contending quality if they hit on their draft picks/get a little lottery luck.

 

Kind of like the Rockets taking Battier instead of their pick. Portland is the perfect candidate for that since they decided to keep Dame and he is not getting any younger. I have a bad feeling the Rox will offer Wood a contract he won't turn down. =(
please let me be wrong.

 

Christopher's the kind of guy that may take a huge leap between years 1 and 3. You don't put that kind of potential on the trading block for roster management.

 

Tier 1: Players that should be part of a rebuilt team trying to win
Green - Lead shooting guard
Sengun - Versatile high/low post player
Christopher - Developing combo guard that could be great 6th man or potential starter

Tier 2: Players that could be part of rebuild depending on role, coaching and individual development
Porter - Potential starting PG, SG or SF or great 6th man; athletic potential is tremendous, with the right coach, system and role he could be a game changer
Mathews - Very good 3/D role player, every team needs a couple of these guys and he's solid in the role
Garuba - Rough rookie year, but we need defense and he's got some potential

Tier 3: Players on the bubble on whether they should stay for rebuild or be used to obtain other assets
Tate - Tough, versatile utility man who is solid, but limited in his potential. Could be better used as a trade chip and valuable to a contender next year
Martin - Exciting young player, but also limited length. We could keep him and continue to develop or package him as part of a trade for a better piece
Nix - Most natural developmental PG on team. Need to see how his body changes in offseason and what he does with more time next season (if he earns it)
Queen - Intriguing player, who could be a very versatile bench piece in the coming years

Tier 4: Mostly vet players who probably bring more value as trade pieces or opening cap space
Wood - Has some skills that could be valuable on the right contender. Not the vet presence we really want on a young team
Gordon - Deserves to go to a contender, try to maximize return in offseason
Wall - Should be moveable some time next season
Schroder - Didn't think I'd like him, but he's been solid on this team. Would be alright if he signs a reasonable contract depending on KPJ and Nix decisions.
Fernando - Might be worth signing to a short-term deal to see if we can develop him further
Nwaba - Love the dude's attitude, but better suited for a vet team.

 

I wouldn’t actively look to trade any of the young guys unless a deal too good to pass came about but even if they are able to get rid of Wood and Gordon without bringing in another rotation player in I still think they need to clear some spots.

I think the draft is going to take care of a lot of this.

But I can’t imagine having both Wood and Gordon here next season and trying to squeeze two more first round picks into the rotation. Like I said it’ll be hard enough to get the right guys minutes if neither are here.

 

I'm going to disagree. I think Alperen, Jalen and our summer pick are going to make it impossible to tank anymore. Even with mediocre vets, they will be mid table and out of the lottery.

So instead of making the Theis mistake all over again (i.e. getting vets who will soon become obstacles), we should maximize our wins, start getting role players that are happy to be here and reduce our future salary as much as possible. Our pick is not going to be good again for a long time if we land a top 2 this summer.

Personally, I move Gordon to the backcourt spot next to Jalen (guarding PG's, while serving as safe secondary playmaker and floor spacer) and on the other end give more of the offense to Jalen and Alperen to run. I don't mind keeping Gordon in that scenario, essentially replacing KPJ and splitting KPJ's duties between Gordon/Green/Sengun.

Wood and Schroeder just gotta go cause they are not winning players. Schroeder can't win cause he can't shoot or defend and Wood cause he doesn't want to be seen as an equal teammate to the rest of the rotation. Wood especially is toxic and I want to get rid of that dude, we all sense it. There are tons of scenarios where less talent results in more wins, and I'm sure Wood is still one of those players. Our record would change 0% without him, hold me to that.

Tate I don't mind trading, but again I'd rather not unless for a major draft pick upgrade or young player on team-controlled contract. We're not getting that for him imo. He's an excellent SF next to Jalen. I don't care about acquiring mid teen picks anymore, we're done with that and have tons coming from BKN.

I think though what will happen is exactly what you're suggesting, the organization will underproject this team's success as though we will tank one more season then panic mid season when they see the losses are not coming like they thought. Then we're going to make another trade to disrupt the chemistry and attempt to tank again, cause Stone is that kind of guy. Then we're going to be sitting here wondering why the hell we did that for something stupid like a #16 pick when we could have made the playoffs.

I'm a believer in tanking, but not for a pick outside the top 5-6. Playoffs create more asset appreciation and player development than the total value of moving up from 20's to early teens in the draft.

 

We have the worst coach in the league. Agree we should win 30 games with the existing talent.

 

100% agree we need to trade

Would rather give up KPJ, Gordon, Tate, and #16 for #7. This team can ill afford to lose tall athletic players. Think a new coach would do wonders for Wood’s game. Imagine grabbing Ivey and the Memphis C (Dur) and moving Wood to PF. Our biggest problem right now, other than Silas, is size and getting manhandled on a nightly basis.

 

It's fairly obvious that developing Green is priority 1 and the impact Schroder has made on Green's game has been tremendous. That's why they kept him at the deadline and that's why I could see them keeping him around for a couple years. He's a great influence on these young players.


As for the rest of the roster, as it stands now, EG & Wood are the obvious pieces you'd want to move but that could change if you don't end up with a top 3 draft pick and get one of Chet / Jabari / Paolo.
In that case you don't necessarily want to ship Wood out the door unless you took one of Kessler or Williams with the Brooklyn pick and you might want to keep him around half a season with them ....

We're going to have to be a little more patient with this rebuild .... This thread might be more productive after the draft lottery when we have more certainty of what the team needs.

 

Im gonna shake things up!

1. Jalen Green
2. Jaden Ivey drafted 2022
3. Alperen Sengun
4. Josh Christopher
5. Keegan Murray drafted 2022 using BKN pick + KPJ&KJ Martin to Portland for their #7-9 pick
6. Victor Wembanyama - ROX win lottery in 2023 and add the best center prospect maybe ever.
7 FA 2024 = Khris Middleton
8. FA 2025 = Jonathan Isaac
9) Veteran = Clint Capela

Championship Roster for 2025

PG Jaden Ivey/Nix
SG Jalen Green/Josh
SF Keegan Murray/Khris Middleton
PF Alperen Sengun/Jonathan Isaac
C Victor Wembanyama/Clint Capela (maybe Garuba sticks here or subsequent draftee)

In my fantasy Jalen Green is able to coerce Erik Spoelstra to come coach the Rockets to a threepeat! I didnt shoot for max FAs because some of the high draft picks will be do some money if everything pans out. Easy huh!?

 

Don't make me get wet talking about Spoelstra.

Talk about a coach upgrade... That's like the biggest upgrade in league history.

Anyways that's a pipe dream. I see him having his entire career in Miami.

 

The Pinoy Connection. Spoelstra seemed like an awestruck fan during the all star game gushing about Jalen and wanting to link up and do some charity stuff in the Philippines. Never say never.

 

Overall he would choose structure over 'certain players'.

Spoelstra either goes to the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs, GSW or he does not leave sunny south beachside.

Arison has been a good owner.

Teams like Toronto, Clips have outsider chances, because of their GM or owner.

Those are the winningest teams recently or in history.

 

Martin good upside? Disagree there.

We just have a 28% chance of that!

 

I really want to compete next year

Id let go of wood, Gordon, snd Tate just to open up roster spots. Id also let go of a couple of the early Brooklyn picks to secure a top 2 pick if we end up with some bullshit like the 4th pick

I’d really like the roster to look like

KPJ/Schroeder(for leadership)
Green/Christopher
3&d with size/Tate?
Top 2 pick/kJ
Sengun/Fernando(however you spell it) or big vet

 

Wow, you make this sound like you are giving everyone here their own intervention. It's time to get serious and make some hard decisions.... Lol. We don't have any control over this, lol. This is a spectators sport and it's just for entertainment. It's written like clutchfans is a bunch of upper brass at the org who are going to have to "make that call on who stays and who goes.
WE HAVE NO POWER HERE.

Some fans here have the delusional belief that their input has an influence on the game. Very similar to those super fans of the WWE that think it's real. They are obsessed and it's time to step back and take a break for your own sanity. LOL