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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    But no cold war gen 2(?) hand me down Migs???

    Sounds like ****ing appeasement to me, Neville Chamberlain.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Not even close - Neville didn't arm Austria, or Czechoslovakia, or any other country...

    The comparison breaks down on so many levels......good try that you know his name, but epic fail in context.

    DD
     
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  4. No Worries

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    Those USA drones will eat the Russian armored columns. Putin will be begging for a cease fire, to prevent these bad boys from becoming operational in Ukrainian hands.
     
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    On Wednesday, Financial Times reported that Ukraine and Russia were actually making substantial progress toward an agreement to end the war. By any measure, the “15 point plan” described seems like an admission of defeat for Russia, with barely any effort to brush over their defeat.
     
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    Woh, that was fast.

    https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-at...eleased-from-captivity-presidents-office.html

    Deputy Head of the Ukrainian President's Office Kyrylo Tymoshenko reported this on Telegram, according to an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

    "A special operation to release Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov has just been successfully completed. Vania is in safety. We have just talked to the President and the head of the Office," Tymoshenko said.

    He said that Fedorov will soon continue fulfilling his duties as Melitopol mayor.

    The Russian military abducted Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov on March 11. About ten invaders broke into the mayor's office, put a black bag on his head and drove him away.

     
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    I trust Noah knows Sputnik is a parody site.
     
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    NRA friends -- he is staeling mahn and yorn guns and ammo! Don't be fooled by this "help" to Ucrane! Just setting us up teh Jade Hem II.
     
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    I like what Barry-o has to say on this one.
     
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    The Ukrainians and the Russians are apparently moving along well with their peace talks, which apparently include an agreement for a ceasefire and a Russian withdrawal in exchange for Ukraine declaring neutrality and renouncing its ambitions to join NATO or host foreign military bases.

    Ukraine and Russia explore neutrality plan in peace talks
    Fifteen-point draft deal would involve Kyiv renouncing Nato ambitions in return for security guarantees

    Ukraine and Russia have made significant progress on a tentative peace plan including a ceasefire and Russian withdrawal if Kyiv declares neutrality and accepts limits on its armed forces, according to five people briefed on the talks.

    Ukrainian and Russian negotiators discussed the proposed deal in full for the first time on Monday, said two of the people. The 15-point draft considered that day would involve Kyiv renouncing its ambitions to join Nato and promising not to host foreign military bases or weaponry in exchange for protection from allies such as the US, UK and Turkey, the people said.

    It will be interesting to see if the North Atlantic powers, including the US, make some sort of frantic move to try to stop this from happening. It has been remarkable to see the establishment toadies in Washington - Republicans and Democrats alike - pushing hard in a way that will lead the US and probably the world to war.​


    Let them make peace. I cannot believe that it needs to be said that we should not militarily impose ourselves here in a way that stops peace from happening. But apparently it does.
     
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    Saudi Arabia, hell we should be attacking them, they are not our friend and kill journalists at their whimsy, just think how many English Premier league soccer teams we could sieze.

    Then on to the UAE, where the Emirate class of people are some of the laziest in human history.....

    Oil problems solved for the world.

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    If this happens, it's great for the Ukrainian people to at least not have to worry about a missile going through their kid's window in the middle of the night. But it's the beginning of the Russian boot on their necks. They will never be completely free of Russian influence if they acquiesce to Russian demands. If this comes to pass, don't be surprised if the Ukrainian president is assassinated within a year and the most outspoken Ukrainian supporters that reside there disappear one at a time.

    To counter this, we absolutely need military muscle in Eastern Europe. Yeah, it's another cold war, but it's the result of Putin's ambitions.
     
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    **** Koch Industries, sanctions should be put on them...

    DD
     
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    Jesus ..
    This is too heartbreaking fellas, going back to the sports hangout. This just shouldn’t happen

    putin deserves a special place in HELL sooner than later
     
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    Hey Putin, how do you like this Sh*t Sandwich?
     
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