Feels like the Texans would lose leverage here doing this. I feel like he'd give them a list of teams, they'd call those teams, and they'd trade him to one of those teams. Once the deal is agreed upon between the teams they'd go back to him and ask him to waive his NTC. Then at that point he could talk to the coach or whatever he needs to do to make himself feel better about going there. Letting him have his own summit of sorts means he's going to pick one team and we are going to take whatever we can get from that team. If suddenly he only wants to go to the Saints after being wined and dined by teams for a week then that means we have to take the Saints offer...but if the Texans presented him a list of teams he agrees to waive his NTC for and then they take the best offer from that team then they lose no leverage. At least I hope they are handling it this way. I read that as they are going to let him talk to the team they decide to trade him to before...I also wonder if this is coming up because Carolina would REALLY like to have him and they have an offer on the table that's appealing to us but he's hesitant to go there because he always had his mind set on a glamor market like New York or Miami and so they hope him visiting Carolina could change his mind.
If I'm Watson, #1 choice would be to the Saints. - Kamara, Thomas - Nawlins nightlife is great - Easy division, now without Brady. Panthers and Bucs QB situation is messy and Matt Ryan isn't getting any younger (and also lost Calvin Ridley). - Still pretty close to Houston, so any roots planted here are accessible.
No I did not read your other post. Apologies. QB is the hardest position to get right in the NFL and most important position, so I thought it was logical for so many teams to want to trade for Watson after the grand jury decided not to press charges. If there was going to be a trial, that would obviously diminish his value. As for the "disheartening" part, why so? This is good for the Texans, is it not? Do you already think he's a rapist, like some others here? I mean, it's very fair to think he's a sexual deviant, but that's a big difference from being a rapist. At this point, calling him a rapist seems to be a biased opinion - it's okay to have it, but it's probably unfair. I'm totally cool with the Texans not wanting Watson and starting over. That's their choice and smart or dumb, it's our team. So this should all be heartening news that many other teams are clamoring for Watson.
Not speaking for the poster, but I think they're just lamenting the fact that we have such a valuable asset that we have to give up. It's like having a $1M lottery ticket in your possession that you have to trade in for $1M worth of things that you might not necessarily want.
I've settled on "serial sexual predator". Like I said, I expected a couple of teams. Not naive enough to think his career was over. However, I didn't think we'd end up in "possibly most lucrative trade in professional sports history" territory. It's an unprecedented scenario, so I guess we're all learning something here.
The Texans will probably come out of this with 3 firsts, 2 other picks and a young starter on a rookie contract as well as 50 million in cap space. That plus a competent GM means the trajectory of this franchise has dramatically changed for the better. There is no need to stress the minutiae at this point…just can’t wait for it to be done.
You said “it’s disheartenating” that other teams are willing to trade for Watson, but the Texans are more than a willing participant. Be disheartened at them too.
The Texans are trading him because he requested a trade, and has nothing to do really with the accusations.
If a Grand Jury says he's not guilty and won't prosecute him. Why the quick no? We have no idea what he did, could all just be a money grab from these women. He's the literally one of the 5 best players at the most coveted position in sports. And he's still young. It took the Texans 17 years to get the qb position straight and now we are going back to square one. 17 more years of mediocrity here we come. There is a reason a qb of his caliber and his age have never been traded in the history of the sport. Whatever we get back in this trade we will lose out. Plain and simple. America justice system suppose to be about not guilty until trial. And half the board here thinks he's the biggest creep even though all charges against him were dropped. Don't really get it. Still believe the nfl has way worse players and owners and characters than him.
A few things. He wasn’t found not guilty. That’s a big difference. Second, he isn’t top 5 now. He might be in the conversation. Third, he is super talented. I’m sure winning would mask the stink of his allegations to some. But he doesn’t want to be here, which is also indicative of poor character. Fourth, this team is garbage. No point in paying him that much with this team. Get a ransom for him and rebuild. There will be more QBs.
We can loose with him or loose without him. Didn't see any fall of in our record last year from the year before in which he played. At least I'm somewhat excited to get an influx of young picks and some young proven talent. I'm a forgiver and wish him no ill will moving forward. But whatever team he goes to they have mortgaged the future with his salary and the loss of draft and player capital.
Watson wants to leave...let him. He is not the guy we thought he was. I think you see the biggest difference between him and Mahomes: Character. Deshaun wants to be in the spotlight, to force superstar status. Mahomes let's his play do the talking. Watson wants the splashy lifestyle, Mahomes is a family man. That "playa" lifestyle is what led to his issues. Doesn't mean being flashy is bad, but it can lead to these types of issues.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article259361859.html Spoiler The future of the NFC South is at stake as the Panthers, Saints and Buccaneers are all making pushes for the 26-year-old quarterback, a former NFL executive with knowledge of the situation told The Observer. “If I’m the Panthers and Scott Fitterer, you go all,” the former executive said. “Because you’ll be in charge of the division. Whoever wins in the South with Deshaun Watson is going to be the team every year for the next decade.” It will take at least three first-round picks, a few middle-round selections and maybe a young player to land Watson, a source told The Observer. Carolina should be comfortable parting with high draft capital but cautious about what (if any) young players it gives up. “There’s no way I’m giving up Christian McCaffrey. He’s not allowed in the deal” a former executive said. “There are reports of Jeremy Chinn (being traded). I think he’s got huge potential of being an All-Pro kind of guy. I’d rather part with picks and give them three ones and two twos than give up a Jeremy Chinn (or McCaffrey).” A former league executive told The Observer they would trade Brian Burns (if necessary) before Derrick Brown because “those big guys inside are so hard to find.” One potential road bump in Watson choosing Carolina is his perception of the Panthers’ organizational stability. Tampa Bay is a year removed from a Super Bowl, has a well-respected head coach, a longtime general manager and one of the league’s most diverse coaching staffs. Even if coach Bruce Arians (69 years old) retires soon, offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich is considered a rising star. The Saints had Sean Payton retire but much of their infrastructure — including head coach Dennis Allen, offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael and general manager Mickey Loomis remain. Financially, it would be difficult for the Saints to make room under the cap for Watson, but not impossible. Carolina could offer coach Matt Rhule a contract extension to show Watson that the Panthers are a stable organization with top-to-bottom alignment, from ownership to management and head coach. Rhule, who is 10-23 in two seasons coaching Carolina, is considered to be on the hot seat entering Year 3. The Cleveland Browns are also a team to watch. It’s believed Houston would prefer to trade Watson out of the AFC but the Browns can offer a multitude of picks and quarterback Baker Mayfield, who is viewed as a better asset than Sam Darnold. Cleveland also agreed to a trade for Cowboys No. 1 receiver Amari Cooper, strengthening their case that they are only a quarterback away from a championship. It’s unclear whether Houston would be interested in acquiring Darnold as part of the trade. In fact, Houston would be doing Carolina a favor by taking on Darnold’s nearly $19 million fifth-year option. On Monday at noon, the NFL’s legal tampering period begins. Teams can begin negotiating with free agents before the new league year begins on March 16. With free agency here and the draft weeks away, Watson should have a new home soon. A source told The Observer they expect Watson to be traded “within the week.”
