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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hlmbasketball, Mar 2, 2022.

  1. Reeko

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    which is why it’s even more asinine to try and compare Green to Ja
     
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    You touched on peak of league players whereas I mainly intended to talk about the 19-24 year segments.

    I do appreciate some stats on this, thanks for that.
    I am mainly focusing on observation and eye test.

    I do have the theory now with more young international players, teams' heavy emphasis on development of rookies and sophs, the overall standard of the league has maintained an average level of competition. Other than super teams that have been investing in acquiring veteran stars.
    This has aided youngins to adapt to the league standard much quicker without forcing them to have a faster but shorter 'peak'.

    Back to Duarte, I do think those 24 year old rookies such as Brogdon or 27 year old rookie such as Scola are still valuable but rare because their longterm upside is limited.
     
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  3. cheke64

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    He's getting there. He needs to pace slower and take his time. He has a shot or drive anytime he wants buts he's too unselfish.

    Improvements he needs:
    Pacing
    A bag
    Be more selfish. He gets timid when he dribbles too much.
     
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  4. ApacheWarrior

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    Yes, but I still question young players drive nowadays vs the past. The drive of MJ, Kobe, Green borders on compulsive obsessive.

    I can't say others are cut from the same cloth.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    I only know that Jordan, Olajuwon, Kobe, KG and others did not have the convenience of having Insta, social media to post their workouts.

    It was all left out on the court.......mang... the past has been really tough in comparison.

    Nowadays everyone just hugs it out after a game, win or loss, there is no real hatred (other than CP3 and Rondo)

    Everyone wearing jewels, golden rings, diamond grills, necklaces, bracelets and weird fashion, what not.

    Luxury was a shiny ear clip.......
     
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  6. Xopher

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    I nor anyone else knows how Jalen will wind up. However, comparing rookie seasons is nuts. Ja had 2 years of college before his rookie season. Jalen played 15 G league games.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    I doubt anyone other than Grizz fans would cry if Morant only ended up being a 1 time or 2 time All-Star instead of being MVP candidate throughout his career.

    It is pretty normal in the NBA where it just happens virtually in a season or two. Player goes from good to great.

    Or they just stagnate at getting better.
     
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    Yeah it's interesting to think how scheduling and the pandemic may have affected the last few draft classes. As you pointed out, the 2020-2021 Ignite guys played 15 games, versus NCAA where teams played about ~30 games. That's a gap in meaningful reps. I'm sure HS play leading up to that season was also a mess. Might explain a bit why the top Ignite guys "underperformed" at the beginning of the season and are now starting to put things together.

    Not use it as an excuse, cause there were rookies playing well from the get-go, but to have these interruptions and distractions during developmental years isn't normal.
     
  10. ApacheWarrior

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    Are we talking Rocky vs Apollo Creed now?

    Rocky vs Drago?

    C'mon man

     
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    Clubber Lang?
    [​IMG]
     
  12. ApacheWarrior

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    Old School vs New School

     
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    it's all those plyometric jumps on the tractor tire
     
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    KMJ will be up there saying hi
     
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    Pretty much agree but Jalen takes more than twice as many threes as Morant did his rookie season, and Morant shot worse than Jalen is last year. Not sure the difference from 3 is notable
     
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    I don't know why people are comparing the two players, but here are their shooting splits

    Ja Morant shooting splits his rookie season (19/20)
    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629630/shooting/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular Season

    Jalen Green shooting splits this season (rookie)
    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630224/shooting/

    Ja Morant (splits 19/20)................||..............J Green (splits 21/22)
    257-457............................56.2%......<5 ft......55.8%.......................125-224
    64-148...............................43.2%....5-9 ft......11.5%...........................3-26
    50-106...............................47.2%...
    10-14 ft...33.3%...........................4-12
    11-31.................................35.5%...
    15-19 ft...25.0%............................8-32

    17-49.................................34.7%....
    20-24 ft..36.7%...........................29-79
    .........[12-33 (36.4% 3P%)].................................[21-63 (33.3% 3P%)]..........

    47-135................................34.8%...
    25-29 ft...30.8%.........................73-237
    1-2.......................................50.0%...
    30-34 ft.....0...................................0-1

    So we see Green with a very small sample size for shots 5 ft thru 19 ft
    per Rockets philosophy (recent history).

    And Green takes the long Eric Gordon 3's..... probably also by design.
     
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    Can Jalen reach.... No.
     
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    It's like watching the same player -- Rockets are blessed.

    +
     
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  20. ApacheWarrior

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    I'm blessed to have you as a Rockets fan
     
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