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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. riko

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    Once a KGB thug always a thug. I doubt NATO will get militarily involved but if Putin decided to go after Poland and more territories that will force NATO to get involved. Then the exchange of fire will be so devastating that the entire European continent will go down in flames . I don’t think Putin or NATO wants that
     
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    For Ukraine, the most important thing is to limit casualties, and there is no solution other than fighting and seeking international pressure to stop the war at this point. Whether Putin will die of cancer or be put on trial, or West/NATO wins against evil empire Russia is secondary to them. Like I said, no matter who wins on the end, Ukraine is at the lossing end because bombs are dropped on their soil and their people.

    Had Ukraine not given up on nukes, and had they not requested to join NATO, maybe they could have escaped this. Of course one cannot prove a negative. There is no blaming victim here, but rather "defensive driving" or "mitigating risk".

    One should not go to a $hitty neighborhood wearing a Rolex and posing and waiving. Yes, he does have the FREEDOM to do so. If he gets robbed and hurt, it would be criminal's fault 100%. However, it doesn't worth proving a criminal is a criminal with one's own life. MAYBE, at the end of the day, that criminal would be charged and compensation would be paid to the victim or his family. Or, politicians would argue for months whether that's a hate crime. But he's the one hurting or even losing life. Don't be a victim.
     
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    Russia doing some low pass formation fly overs to entertain the citizens of Ukraine.
     
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    That's some scary ass ****
     
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    Savvy. Genius.
     
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    Putin is such a horrible man.

    We have a lot of employees in Ukraine. We are trying to see what we can do to help them.
     
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    tulsi supporting her president (putin)...

     
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    Trump is not in office. Biden will be waking up this morning to crazy news from Europe
     
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    how am I just hearing about the Secretary of State's Spotify playlists just now??? these are great



    Secretary Of State Antony Blinken Unveils His 2021 Playlist

    https://deadline.com/2021/12/anthony-blinken-playlist-spotify-1234902920/

    "Save Your Tears" is a good choice

    here are the choices for Europe, led by "Hold On"

    Europe

    Adele, “Hold On” (UK): The song, and the album, focuses on Adele’s divorce, motherhood and fame.

    Paul Carrack, “Good and Ready” (UK) Carrack is a singer, songwriter, composer and instrumentalist.

    Yola, “Barely Alive” (UK): The musician, singer and songwriter received four Grammy nominations last year.

    Dua Lipa, “Levitating” (UK) Lipa was recognized as one of the 25 most influential British women of 2018 by British Vogue.

    Feu! Chatteron, “Monde Nouveau” (France): The song from the French pop/rock band is the final track on their album, Palais d’argile.

    Stromae, “Santé” (Belgium): The selection is one of the Belgian musician, rapper, singer and songwriter’s first songs since an extended break from the public eye.

    Wincent Wiess, “Die guten Zeiten” (Germany): The song, from a signer who started on the German talent show Deutschland sucht den Superstar, ranked on the German charts.

    Seinabo Sey, “Sweet Dreams” (Sweden) The artist from Stockholm was influenced by Alicia Keys and Beyoncé.
    more at the link
     
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    Statement from Boris Johnson...

     
  16. Amiga

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    Ukraine never had nukes capability.

    Had Ukraine not become an independent state, they would have escaped this. Putin does not recognize Ukraine as legitimate and has been wanting to restore the glory day of the USSR for a long time.
     
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    Brutal

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60509493

    BBC Ukraine editor: There is no safe place anymore

     
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    I am worried about the Balkans. Serbian's government is corrupted by Moscow. I wouldn't be surprised if they try and take back territory. This will spread. There is one place that is of interest for Putin: kosovo. The only pipeline that leads to rest of Europe not coming from Russia. Camp Bonsteel is in Kosovo. I doubt they would be stupid to attack kosovo?.
     
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