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Soooooo, what happens when KPJ comes back?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hlmbasketball, Feb 22, 2022.

  1. TheRealist137

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    This is really hilarious. Those outrageous statements you just made prove that you are nothing more than a kPJ fanboy

    KPJ is not better than Shroder ever was. Dennis averaged 19 PPG twice in his career, on good shooting. Dennis is a 15-16 PER player, multiple years proves it. KPJ is a 12.5 PER player and averages less points, shoots worse, and turns the ball over more.

    All your **** talking on Green is discredited because all you are is a KPJ fanboy.
     
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  2. TEXNIFICENT

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    I love Smith’s talent. I think he’s the real deal
     
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  3. joshuaao

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    You continue to start KPJ and have Dennis push the pace off the bench. We are going to be sorry no matter how you shuffle the pieces - the important thing is to build the right habits. Vets like EGo and Dennis help with that. They can both do well in our PnR heavy offense and create easier looks for the youngsters
     
  4. DaDakota

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    I just hope that KPJ sees how beneficial pushing and early offense can be.

    DD
     
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  5. jimmyv281

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    Wood - Sengun
    Chet - Tate
    Porter - KJ
    Green - Garrison
    Dennis - Josh Chris
     
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    Schroder is better than KPJ right now, but in the interest of development you start KPJ anyway I think.
     
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  7. Stephen_A

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    In a perfect world yes. I agree with you. In my opinion KPJ isn’t good at the 1 especially next to Green. I am so curious what they will do at this position. When will we get to see Nix? I can’t imagine them drafting Jaden Ivey a combo guard type. I would imagine they are still evaluating KPJ and will implement Nix late in the season. Schroeder who is playing for his next contract may be a temporary gap filler playing mentor and having a leadership role. Very interesting to see what they do here.
     
  8. Stephen_A

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    Agree with you on KPJ but I would say the same thing for Sengun supporters. Very raw and undisciplined, turnover prone for a big man and is a liability on defense at times. In no way is Sengun better than Tate or even Wood. Not sure why people don’t see Tate as the best player, who has been nothing but a workhorse and glue for this team.
     
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  9. Stephen_A

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    Lol yeah i really dunno what their plans are with KPJ despite some improvement in his play last month or so. At this point he isn’t the answer at the 1 but i guess it depends on his level of play the rest of the season. maybe he will surprise and consistently elevate his level of play next couple months. Who knows?
     
  10. Stephen_A

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    I think he was just happy that a team gave him another chance and has bought into the idea.
     
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  11. Stephen_A

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    Leadership, mentorship. Lots of people underestimate or overlook on court leadership and mentorship off the court. Rockets haven’t been successful because they haven’t had much leadership at the pg position. This is good for KPJ.
     
  12. Stephen_A

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    He does know what to do. He dribbles 3 times into 2 defenders and comes to a dead halt, pivots, and makes a jump pass to an imaginary player between the wing and top of the key.
     
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  13. Stephen_A

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    Tate is always left out the conversation for some reason. Not sure why fans don’t give Tate more love. But all the rage has been on Sengun. Interesting to me.
     
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  14. Stephen_A

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    He should never be the primary ball handler.
     
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    Dont underestimate the value of veteran leadership. Schroeder has been in big games and winning teams. He has defensive intensity and is a savvy pg. His guidance and tutelage is valuable. This is similar in how EG is valuable to this team. Just like in any profession, mentorship and leadership is key to grooming the next generation of leaders.
     
  16. Stephen_A

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    Not his decision really. Management has made it clear they want to try KPJ at the 1.
     
  17. Stephen_A

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    I question this as well. And remember it seemed suspect with him and Wood out the same game. I have a feeling it’s disciplinary.
     
  18. Stephen_A

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    Yeah i think it’s apparent to many who watch these games that he just not the answer at the 1. He has improved his 3 pt shooting and he is actually going to the basket with more purpose attacking openings more but he hasn’t improved much as a pg. really erratic decision making and undisci. I agree with you I don’t care if we lose as long as we play hard, compete, and play a disciplined game. KPJ makes it difficult to watch with awful turnovers and lack of discipline. The team just looks discombobulated with him at point. Really unbearable to watch. I loved watching the few games without him and Wood including that Philly game and the Schroeder Phoenix game. The team looks completely different. More united, calm and disciplined. This is the effect of good pg’s. Calming effect and ball sharing.
     
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    You are pretty smart... remind me of Pragg.
    16 year old chess prodigy. Just kidding.

    I think you may be overthinking things. But to
    each their own.
     
  20. J.R.

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    Scary hours? o_O:D



    “We need momentum going into next year,” Porter said. “Finishing off the season — not even (for) next year — finishing off the season, we want to finish the right way. We show flashes, but we want to be more consistent with the 24 games. We want to take it real serious and try to win each and every game.

    “We’re going to try to jell, me and J’s chemistry on the court, because next year we’ve got to be scary. We’re going to be scary.”

    Porter puts their potential more simply.

    “Both killers,” he said. “Two killers together is better than one.”

    Their playing time together so far has resembled how things have gone overall for the Rockets this season, with opponents scoring 116 points per 100 possessions. Offensively, things have gone slightly worse with Green and Porter on the floor together. But that can be somewhat misleading, because their games together were more often in the first half of the season.

    Both have been more effective in recent games, especially offensively, with Green making 41.2 percent of his 3s in his eight February games and Porter making 50 percent of his 3s this month.

    That has not translated to wins. The Rockets’ defense has remained the NBA’s worst — slightly better in the minutes Green and Porter have shared the court but still at the bottom of the rankings.

    “(The final 24 games) are very important for both guys understanding how to help each other play well on both ends of the floor and to continue the basketball bonding that they started,” Rockets coach Stephen Silas said. “But it hasn’t been very long. It’s been uneven. Hopefully, we’ll have a good stretch where they’ll be out there together for hopefully all 24. But if not for all 24, for a majority of them.

    “When you know where somebody is going to be, when you know how you can help somebody play better, when you know the play that your teammate likes the most — when you feel that feeling during the game when one of them is rolling, so let me keep them rolling — is very important. There’s a lot of ways it happens, mostly organic, less play calls, less on the board, less video. It’s more when they get the feel for each other.”

    “It’s going to be super important,” Green said. “It takes a whole team to get a win, but me and Kev, I feel like, are the main people handling the ball. We need that firepower coming into the last 24 games.”

    Time this season might be running out. But as with teams making star additions and hoping to rapidly make them mesh, the Rockets are still working to get their backcourt time together in the belief that is what they need most.

    “That’s all,” Porter said. “More time. It’s going to be better and better over time.”
     

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