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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I knew the right wingers would come out of the woodwork once this happened. You guys are so transparent.
     
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    You can go to Cypress or tomball
     
  3. tinman

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    All this time
    I thought the enemies of the world were Elon Musk , Dave Chapelle and Joe Rogan!

    this Putin guy must be hilarious
    @basso


    #legacycablesucks
    #dababy
    #elon
     
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  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Yeah, a great day for our far-right authoritarian fluffers. Indeed.
     
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    No one with a working brain thinks this is in any way funny, and no one who cares about what's happening right now in and around Ukraine and in Eastern Europe gives a damn about "Elon Musk , Dave Chapelle and Joe Rogan!"
     
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    Don't worry everyone, Sheila Jackson Lee will be our savior.....

     
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  7. tinman

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    The D&D apparently has and the media has

    It was obviously a distraction from the real issues because the media and the politicians are trying to mask real issues so they go after the culture

    Russell brand hit it on the dot

     
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    People need to remember that Ted Cruz has held up nearly every ambassador appointed to Europe in order to sabotage our foreign policy. Right now Congress is having to play that role in a way while they aren’t in session in order to help making sure our allies in the Baltics stay on the same page. I would rather have seasoned diplomats there instead of course but this is probably the best we’ve got thanks to your boy Lying Ted.
     
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    There's a bunch of Ukrainians in Miami
     
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    So embarrassing until you remember how many republicans rely on him for political insights…

     
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    biden wants war to improve his shitty approval rating and to have a better shot at re-election
     
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    Wait what? Lol you seriously don’t think that do you? What would happen if there was a war? What impact do you think will happen to the world economy? The economy is going to suffer. Already markets are down. Oil prices through the roof. Think. Biden doesn’t want this war. Unfortunately he may not have a choice.
     
  13. dobro1229

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    What could Biden have done to prove to you that he wanted to avoid war in Ukraine? What differently would he have done? Give specifics please.
     
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    Russians claim that Anglo-saxons need the war. To some extent, no matter how this ends, Ukraine is going to be the biggest loser, while US is one of the winners, or the only winner. In the past weeks or months, you see words like "war" and "invasion" coming out of mouths of US or British leaders far more than that of German, France, or even Ukraine. Didn't the Ukraine president asked US to tone down a little bit a week or so ago? Germans rejected calls to impose sanction BEFORE invasion.

    Any invasion is a war crime, but Putin didn't just launch attack on Switzerland. Western leaders did give Russians "words" that NATO would not expand eastbound. Of course, treaties or words only exist to be broken. Cuba crisis didn't occur because Russia decided to attack US, but rather planned to place missles in Cuba. US threatened a full-scale or even nuclear war to prevent that. Now that Ukraine wanted badly to join NATO and build missle system to aim at Russia, all of the sudden, we Americans are outraged by Putin's reaction.

    A stable and happy Europe including Russia is never in the best interest of US, and Europeans will forget about UK. Look at Euro before and after what happened in Yogoslavia. US dollar dominance is held by power; therefore, sanctions against Russia will be very powerful and effective, against Russian people. When Blinken presented picture of what war would be like in front of UN, I don't know how many people drew parallel to Powell holding that tube of Tide powder. We are worried about civilians suffering at war? Really? If you mean worry by "sending prayers and thoughts", yes, we do worry about everything. But if you mean worry by avoiding war by all means, we never give a damn. Afterall, Americans have strong opinions about everything, especially places they've never been to and have zero knowledge about, would still prefer to bomb them, as long as the "free" press keep telling them.

    We are sure that invasion was imminent... for several months. Our intel was sure that invasion would happen on 2/16. Well, we are going to impose sanctions invasion or not. We are going to help defend Ukraine ... by pulling troops and Americans out of the country, for "flexibility". I don't see those moves and messages as "diplomatic" or "peace loving".

    Dictator this or that, but democatically elected leaders seem to send people to more wars or launch more wars. Hitler was elected and Saddam was elected. I am NOT comparing Hitler to anyone, although Elon Musk compared Trudeau to him. Almost every US president sent people to war somewhere, maybe except for Trump? How ironical. On the end, as long as bombing happens on foreign soils, US comes out as a winner and "defense" industry prosper. That's what matters and that's what keeps the strategy going.

    I condemn the Russian invasion and condemn any war.
     
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    Sanctions mean jack if it doesn't include sanctions against China too.
     
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    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    it was prescient; it clearly wasn't laughable.
     
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  18. rocketsjudoka

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    Reading the last few post are missing a few things.
    1. Biden has actually gone out of his way to avoid war. He's been very focused on diplomatic efforts and even said he wasn't going to send US troops to Ukraine.
    2. This is nothing like Colin Powell holding up a tube of yellow cake at the UN. Russia has actually invaded Ukraine.
     
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