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Jarrett Allen, the Rocket who isn't

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by topfive, Jan 14, 2021.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Yea, it was a formal gesture that was clearly already discussed privately.

    I have no trouble following it all and you seem to be embarrassing yourself.
     
  2. jiggyfly

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    So let me get this straight they offered him a max extension just to look good to league and players yet everybody and their mother knew the offer was sham, am I getting this right?

    They literally offered him a max extension, but somehow it was for show and both knew it but everybody else in the NBA thought it was real?

    Really?

    Ok, I am stopping because this is getting even more absurd.
     
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  3. jiggyfly

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    Ok

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  4. dmoneybangbang

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    That’s not how I would look at it, I look at it that they did good by Dipo and offered him the max extension they could.
     
  5. D-rock

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    If Dipo was healthy and playing at All Star level, he would have received a much bigger longer contract on open market.

    The max extension offer was a hail mary by Stone to keep Dipo from testing FA waters and retain his rights.

    The problem is that Dipo overestimated his worth and thus saved Stone from exacerbating what was already a monumental mistake when he originally traded for a debilitated Dipo in the first place.

     
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  6. gmoney411

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    No I am not claiming that now. Oladipo said that himself. I sent you the quote where he said that. I have no idea how I am embarrassing myself by saying what Oladipo said in a quote that I sent to you several posts ago. I am honestly confused as to why you are responding this way when you had that information so long ago.
     
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  7. ChillyPete32

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    I think you are missing my point. OKC easily could have taken Cleveland’s place in the 4 team trade. All they had to do was come up with something better than that 2022 Bucks pick to give us. Giving us back the 2025 swap we owe might have even been enough. Changing the protections on the 2021 swap almost certainly would have.

    So even ignoring all the other reasons we didn’t keep Allen (fit with Wood, luxury tax, etc), if Stone is an idiot for undervaluing Allen then at the absolute least Presti is as well since he could have gotten Allen pretty easily instead of the Cavs. I’m pretty sure other teams had TPEs and whatnot where they could have taken the Cavs place in the deal but I’m not going to spend time trying to figure that out. OKC easily could have done it though.
     
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  8. gmoney411

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    It's like people don't realize how trades happen. The Rockets had to call teams and offer Jarrett Allen. If his value was way higher than a late first you would think another team would offer something better. And if they offered something better there was no reason for the Rockets not to take it. If the Rockets undervalued Allen there is likely a long list of other teams that did too.
     
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  9. D-rock

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    Sort of like that long list of teams offering FRP for Dipo amirite????

    Or EGo???

    Yep, you got us with your in depth knowledge of how trades work.

    Nice try Felicia.

     
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  10. gmoney411

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    Actually the opposite based on what I was saying about Allen.

    It's actually pretty base level knowledge that is often talked about.
     
  11. br0ken_shad0w

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    I do hope these 'token gestures' actually amount to something because it's more likely no player worth a damn is going to sign with this team even with enough cap space for two max contract players.
     
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    Why not? Do you think the team will still be terrible at the end of next year?
     
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    Yes

    Why would they not be?

    I hope they draft a Franchise changing guy, but that is a very slim possibility, and I really hope they don't resort to spending big just to make the playoffs.
     
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    We have a lot of young guys that could improve over the next year and a half. Plus draft picks, plus trades. I'm not expecting play in but I don't think it's crazy for the Rockets to look like a young and upcoming team by the end of next year. Plus Houston is a popular city among NBA players.
     
  15. jiggyfly

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    Yes they could improve but that's unlikely going from history and when have NBA players been lining up to play for the Rockets.

    No big name guy is going to come her for a rebuild or a middling playoff team.

    Just look at NBA history, SAC, ORL, Charlotte, Chi CLE NO and others it's not that easy.
     
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    We already had a Jarret Allen on our team not that long ago. His name was Clint Capela.

    You don’t pay max money to role players like them.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean by look at history but if you are saying the most likely scenario is that the Rockets don't make a huge jump next year I agree.

    Maybe not a big name but I think we could bring in some decent FAs if we improve. I'd have to look at a list of who will be a FA that year.

    I think Chicago is the only comparable city to Houston. We are a better destination than the others you listed. I'd put us in the second tier of NBA cities.
     
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    role players don’t usually make all star teams
     
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  19. dmoneybangbang

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    While I think he’s better than just a role player, I don’t see him as a multi year all star. Usually Bam wins that All Star reserve spot, but he’s injured this year.

    I think players like Allen are good but come around every other year.
     
  20. Corrosion

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    The Rockets were NOT going to pay Allen $100m.

    This is something just about everyone complaining in this thread omits from the conversation.


    No team pays "that guy" a hundred million to win 17 games.


    That entire transaction was about keeping their cap space clear between now and the day they can sign a superstar.


    It's time to let this thread die.
     
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