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[Poll] Stone Confidence

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Feb 11, 2022.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, how much confidence do you have in Stone?

Poll closed Feb 21, 2022.
  1. 10

    2 vote(s)
    3.9%
  2. 9

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  3. 8

    3 vote(s)
    5.9%
  4. 7

    5 vote(s)
    9.8%
  5. 6

    7 vote(s)
    13.7%
  6. 5

    8 vote(s)
    15.7%
  7. 4

    3 vote(s)
    5.9%
  8. 3

    7 vote(s)
    13.7%
  9. 2

    5 vote(s)
    9.8%
  10. 1

    10 vote(s)
    19.6%
  1. ashleyem

    ashleyem Member

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    A look back at Stone’s transaction in the past year:

    - Drafted Jalen Green over Evan Mobley, traded 2 1st round pick for Sengun and drafted Christopher and Garuba

    - Signed Daniel Theis and David Nwaba, let Olynyk Wall

    - Shut down John Wall

    - Signed Garrison Mathews on a cheap 4-year deal

    - Traded Theis for Schroeder, waived Armoni Brooks

    - Kept Eric Gordon and Christian Wood
     
  2. Reeko

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    Stone also hired Silas

    Idk where all this confidence in Stone comes from

    he hasn’t made many good moves, and all his bad moves are blamed on Tilman which is why he often matrix dodges all criticism

    If Stone is just a figurehead, how the hell is it “In Stone we trust!”

    and if he’s not a figurehead, then how is it “In Stone we trust!”

    if Stone was a musician and put out an album, you’d be asking “Where’s the hits?”

    Stone’s album isn’t going platinum, it’s going triple styrofoam

    Stone’s album flopped
     
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  3. dobro1229

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    The hits that he gets credit for are the gems later in the draft like Christopher when in reality that’s unlikely having much of anything to do with him. That’s the scouting teams hard work which probably has many of the same folks left that found Morey guys like Landry, Parsons, Brooks, etc.

    Stone is the lead singer and song writer of this album. He shouldn’t get too much credit for an awesome drum solo when he’s singing like Yoko. Even with Ringo on the drums and George playing a sweet new Tele, if Yoko is belting out nonsense the songs are going to be garbage and it’s not gonna sound like Abbey Road.
     
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  4. CDrex

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    He's doing fine. He put together a team of young players, cleared playing time for the ones that deserved it, and pulled Garrison Mathews out of nowhere on one of the most team-friendly deals imaginable. He's avoided wrecking the team's future cap in pursuit of short term gains.

    For everyone highlighting any given mistake (Theis signing, no Gordon trade), note that not one of those has damaged our short term objective (lose) or our long term objective (avoid 2023-2024 salary). I think passing on Evan Mobley is the only big misstep that hurts the long-term plan, and that had massive approval rating here at the time.

    He's going to have to reckon with the fact that Silas is almost definitely a bad coach, but we're trying to lose so that reckoning doesn't need to happen until either this summer or next.
     
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  5. Swapshop

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    Let Olynyk walk? News flash but players do have their own free will, he chose to.
     
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  6. Jontro

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    super confident. breh got us green and turk. i say that gives him a 5 year window to do as he pleases, because he's great. tillmen is great
     
  7. Imanimal

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    You’re forgetting his worst move if all: signing Silas for FIVE years (of pain for Rockets fans). Also, giving away Allen.
     
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    Stone confidence dropping like a rock.
     
  9. Bo6

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    That list doesn't even include Oladipo / Jarrett Allen messes..
     
  10. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    I have mixed feelings.

    Once it was clear that Harden was bolting, he did a decent job. I know a lot of people were unhappy with the Harden trade. I thought it was about as good of a return as any team would be able to offer, but I didn't really want Simmons.

    I liked what he did in getting a 1st (and Wall) for Westbrook, who I thought was nearly untradeable.
    I liked what he got for Covington and how it freed up money to also sign Wood (but would have been better still if he converted Wood into future assets yesterday).
    I liked what he got for Tucker.

    And overall I was happy with the draft results.

    Additionally, I liked how he brought in Tate and Mathews and signed them on the cheap. Being able to identify quality roleplayers that the rest of the league is overlooking is a huge talent.

    But when I think about how he wanted to extend Oladipo and we only lucked out because Oladipo didn't want to stay (and btw, that guy made a huge mistake not taking that money), how Daniel Theis was the best he could do in free agency, that he failed to make any significant moves for either deadline now and that he apparently passed on a 1st round pick for Gordon?

    All of that makes me very nervous. Now I'm concerned about what he'll do with Wood and Schroeder moving forward. I hope to god he doesn't Oladipo them. They might not be stupid enough to say no.
     
  11. mikol13

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    As of right now I have him middle of the road at 5. I think the next year will tell us just about all we need to know.
     
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  12. Bo6

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    kinda the opposite of morey. seems to be a great talent evaluator but horrible at asset management.
     
  13. dobro1229

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    Before I was in the 3 year trial run camp where he has some time let some of these decisions to play out.

    Now I think I’ve seen enough to know there are serious issues and I don’t see a humble and smart leader capable of change. If a top notch GM becomes or is available I don’t think Tillman should wait.

    I would warmly welcome Hinkie back in a heartbeat.
     
  14. Aruba77

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    I have him at a 5 too; primarily because of KPJ, Sengun, Christopher, the value Wood signing, and our diamonds in the rough (Tate, Mathews, KJ). The Dipo debacle, the trade deadline failures, passing on Mobley…these errors create a mixed picture.

    I won’t ding him for not selling high on Wood, but I will ding him for having Wood tunnel vision to the detriment of bringing in other young bigs like Allen and Mobley, who are both legit 2-way players.
     
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  15. mfastx

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    I'm at a 4 right now, but willing to give him a couple more years!
     

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