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Forcing children to wear a mask is child abuse. The Left failed children.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 31, 2022.

  1. Squirtle

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    GOT EM. ZAKHEM.
     
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  2. dc rock

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    The guy from the original tweet? I’m talking about people who are just regular, run-of-the-mill libs focused on the issue of ending mask mandates, like the doctor and columnist I quoted. Not contrarians or people having some weird red pill awakening about how bad “The Left” has always been actually...



    The pandemic isn’t an ideological or political battle. Near the beginning many said health leaders/experts and the media were overhyping the severity because they wanted to hurt Trump. People were wearing masks to make the country look bad. Well they media has had similar coverage and experts have made similar warnings about Delta and Omicron under Biden. People are still wearing masks. Are they trying to hurt Biden because he’s not Left enough? How did this help Biden (and “The Left”)?



    And Biden didn’t push that booster plan because he has some inherent leftist desire to randomly vaccinate people. His administration was worried about waning vaccine efficacy because of the data they were getting from Israel - not exactly a Left-leaning government over there.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden...gesting-waning-covid-vax-efficacy-report-says

    Disagree with health officials/experts. They’re definitely not infallible, obviously. Disagree with politicians who follow health officials’ advice when making policy decisions. I just don’t understand the desire to make it a Left vs. Right issue. Why can’t the conversation just be about whether masks are necessary in school instead of the over-the-top “The Left has failed (and abuses) kids!” ?
     
  3. Invisible Fan

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    To hide the stink of all the unvaxxed dead...uhh freedumb fightin martyrs.

    Umm yeah because there really was a point for those rubes to die...absolutely
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    @AroundTheWorld are you still living in Germany? What is the policy for school age children there?
     
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    It's all very confusing because the rules are constantly changing and differ state by state, but one thing has been consistent - children below the age of 6 do not need to wear masks. 6-16 now surgical masks sufficient instead of FFP2.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    At this point let people go maskless and unvaccinated. Omicron is a lot less serious and deadly and masks don't work so well against it as it did with Delta and other strains. And most of the population is vaccinated at this point.

    The issue has become more political than public health. People can't breath, talk, communicate or do anything, its oppressing them and the next thing you know someone will claim masks are poisoning them.
     
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    Weren't you just b****ing about how Europe > America because European children don't have to wear masks? Meanwhile my American kid hasn't had to wear a mask all school year.
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    No.

    I was pointing out how even in places like Germany, which have had stricter restrictions than most places in the US, at least children under 6 don't have to wear masks. Something the WHO recommends against as well.

    There is literally not a single country in the world other than the USA which forces 2 year olds to wear masks on planes.

    Not one.
     
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    You are about 6 months late on that one.

    As you know, in the US it's up to each State (and sometime up to each city and even each school districts). I would have preferred clear criteria on when to restrict (masking and whatever else). Flow with the data. No one know if Omicron is the last - wishful thinking to assume so.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I was all about masks, but with Omicron, it doesn't seem to matter especially since people are really diligent anyway. Most people are vaccinated, and if they aren't, it's their issue. That being said, the mask thing isn't an issue in Texas. People have the choice. The only thing I worry about now are the stress that nurses have to deal with and the kids that have lost their parents because of their "political" stance. Stupid AF. I also know some teenagers that want to be vaccinated but aren't allowed by their stupid parents.
     
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    There's a group of people whom have suffered largely unnoticed through the pandemic, and that is folks with auditory processing disorders. I'm one of these folks. Being unable to see people's faces makes it very hard to comprehend what they're saying, especially those whom talk fast, with accents, or in lower volumes. We need to see people's faces to routinely and accurately comprehend what they're saying. We don't pick up on pure speech well. I've noticed over the last two years I've been a lot less willing to engage with other folks just because I know it's going to be such an uphill battle to converse. It's a little thing, but it does have an impact. I think introducing masks as a self-quarantining measure is going to save countless lives in North America every flu season for years, but overall I'm ready for maskerinos to be gonezo as a compulsory thing everywhere but in high risk settings (clinics, hospitals, elder care, etc).
     
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    I'm sorry that anyone has any kind of challenge in life, big or small.

    While I am being facetious in that line of my post, I am serious that I think its time to end mask mandates given their ineffectiveness against Omicron. To me there's no point to people wearing masks as it really won't put much of a dent in the spread against Omicron. It was effective before, but not anymore as the ro for Omicron is just way too high to be reduce significantly by a mask. I hope you know that I was mocking more the people who claim that the masks are responsible for things such as brawls at the Golden Coral and not those with actual special needs.

    Thanks for sharing and I appreciate it.
     
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    I interpret this infographic to basically say "if you're not wearing an N95 you might as well be maskless".
     
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    ******* low-talkers

     
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    Correct. And N95 are too cumbersome for small children.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    Even though we've known for a long time that the disease was transmitted through aerosol (which is almost impossible to prevent/avoid), I always wore my surgical mask because I figured hey, even if it's a 2-5% reduction in transmission rate (stopping droplets/spray but effectively doing nothing against aerosol), that could potentially save someone else's life, so I'm gonna do it. I'll still mask up in heavy crowds because I'm now just that much more aware of how much water flies out of our faces even during normal speech, let alone sneezing, coughing, etc, but it does help me be at peace with my decision to not mask up 95% of the time.
     
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