Live Show Talking Rockets Trade Possibilities: 7:30 pm

Agree.
But…

Spoiler: Yo know…

GORDO!

lol

 

Nooooooooooo

We can't send John Lucas to the Suns.

They would owe us like 6 first round picks. Lol

 

But why more and more Bizzaro comic strips?

You guessed the answer right there: Because we can!

 

The two things I'd love to hear @Clutch opinion on are:

1. Does he think KPJ's recent play shows that he is capable of being the Rocket's pg of the future. So many still think he is not.
2. What does he think of Silas? Perhaps it's tricky for him to say, but I'd love to know his evaluation on Silas.

 

Not Clutch, but I would say that the future should be defined in 2 years, 5 years and 10 years.

It would be too rash to evaluate who is the PG of the future because you could still be adding PG assets to the team to have a competitive environment.

The Road to being a contender is full of challenges, obstacles, changes, I think we should know that by now.

 

My take on the hoarding of first round picks is much like yours. Either use them to bundle and get a difference making vet or to move up in the draft. It then comes down to evaluations. Is this year’s draft the time to make your move or do you like next year’s better when our own pick is more likely not to be in the top 5. If you could trade away 3 or 4 picks to move into the top 5 then who are you targeting and is that second top 5 pick better than moving up next year to get a shot at the studs coming out then?

 

Im probably mistaken but I believe our own pick next year goes to the Thunder. I'm sure
there is some wrangling on records......but yeah.

I'm all in on this year's draft. @D-rock liked both Evan Mobley and Scottie Barnes
(tip of the cap to you D as Barnes and Mobley have looked better than my horses
Jalen Green and Kuminga......thus far. We will check back in 4 years, lol)

Wouldn't it have been great to have had both Mobley and Barnes on the same team?
Wouldn't it be outer worldly to have Jabari Smith and Chet or Banchero and Chet?
Supposedly Chet is the next Durant....that's worth 4 (probably late) 1st round picks
to me.

As is now, those picks will probably be Garuba or Kuzma late first round, wait 4 years
to develop. Timeline way of thinking in my mind is get the gang all together of a Jabari
Smith and Banchero (as an example) with Green with Porter with Christopher with Sengun
with Mathews with Garuba with Tate with Kenyon. We could be a very good team next
season. Probably 6, 7 or 8th seed. As the grow and get experience will clear that
dreaded 8th seed.

P.S. I have the Heat trading Duncan Robinson to us for Wood. So add his name to our
list of stallions in our stables. Kenyon and Garuba probably become tradable assets
moving forward if you have two of Jabari Smith, Banchero, Chet, Patrick Baldwin.

Just my humble opinion. I have to look up those picks going to Thunder for CP3 deal.
Sure they go to them soon to complete the transaction.

 

The rockets keep their pick next year.

Dependingperhaps on how high the rockets draft next year. I’m starting to skew in thinking that the Rockets may try to get a top 4ish pick next season. Meaning if they end up with a 7-11th pick or so they trade a bunch of picks including their own and Christopher or Martin etc. If they get a pick for Gordon or Wood this year. Trade this years pick from the Nets for one next season or the future. They the Bucks pick next year as well. That is 4 picks total plus a player to add to Green/Sengun/this years pick. That is a solid foundation the Thunder then get get two picks and pick swap in 2024-2026.

If you take this route hopefully the Rockets get someone in free agency that can put it all together. Also when the rockets give the Thunder their pick in 2024 I think you hold onto the nets pick that year and after to give you more flexibility to trade the year of or actually draft a player as they fall apart.

 

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
FRPs summarized below.

2024 26 pick to OKC (Top 4 protected)
2025 has a weird swap where OKC gets the better of their pick and Hou pick (Top 10 protected) and then Hou can swap the lower of those for Brooklyn's pick.
2026 26 pick to OKC (Top 4 protected)

Houston also has the following incoming
2022 Brooklyn (or Heat pick if Brooklyn passes them in standings)
2023 Milwaukie (no protection)
2024 Brooklyn (no protection)
2026 Brooklyn (no protection)
Option to swap with Brooklyn in 23 and 27 in addition to the weird one above.

So +2 FRPs going forward and +2 on the favorable side of swaps.

 

l agree that at some point it makes since to bundle picks and/or players to grab a prize. The question is when do you do it. My thought would be that we will have a top 5 pick this year. Depending on how that pick performs we will be pickin between 8-10 in 2023(it belongs to us). The question really is do we value 2 out of the top 5 in this draft over bundling our 2023 pick with other picks to move up into maybe top 3 in 2023 or for an available vet you value more than say AJ griffin. I don’t know. Nook seems to think AJ is going to be great. I’m not as much of a draft Savant to look out to 2023 to have an opinion. I would bundle several players and picks to get an extended Myles turner right now.

 

https://fanspo.com/nba/s/rockets/tr...-man-indy-gets-4-frps-to-start-their-re-build

Try this trade on for size:

 

I'm sorry but that is one of the worst trades I've ever seen.

 

why?

 

If you assume you can get a first for Gordon then why trade 4 first round picks for a guy who currently has a stress fracture in his foot? Houstons own 2023 pick in a loaded draft? What if the nets implode after this season? What happens to wood in this scenario he's again a 4? Adding turner and trading our own pick would mean we want to compete so I'd assume we'd keep wood and play him in a position he doesn't excel in. How has the 2 big lineup worked for the Pacers? Not to mention Sabonis is infinitely better than Wood. I like Turner as a player but for 4 first round picks? He's a very, very good role player. I'm not sure he's worth the return of Harden or Jrue Holiday. I might give that for Towns but even then, do we really want to go down this road so early in a rebuild? What happens to Sengun? You can't play them together so Sengun, who could end up better than Turner is just a 15 minute a night guy going forward? BTW this isn't the first time Turner has injured his foot. He's been sidelined for significant time multiple seasons now for foot issues. Keep in mind one of the picks included in this deal (milwaukee 2023) was all it took to net Jarrett Allen. If the Rockets didn't feel locking up salary in Allen fit their timeline then why would they trade 4x the amount to lock salary into an older, injury prone center? Is Turner worth 4 times the price of Allen? And considering where those other picks might be in relation to milwaukee's it could be 10x the price.

 

I didn’t realize Turner’s injury history. I do think he could easily play next to Sengun, in fact, he might be the ideal player next to Sengun. Nothing would keep us from still trading Wood. I’m not at all as sure as you that Wood cannot play SF given his perimeter defense and 3pt shot, but it’s not necessary due to our top 5 pick this year. Given the information on his injuries maybe it would only take our 2023 pick and one other. If we had Turner and our top 5 pick this year and another year of improvement from our young guys that pick will be close to out of the lottery. I would rather have Patrick Williams even though he is also injured. Both being injured is probably the only thing that makes them available. Kat isn’t available.