Chad Ford's Re-drafting the Lottery Picks from the 2021 NBA Draft

He has inconsistent mechanics on his shot and that is a big issue.... that and he needs more core strength.... then long term he needs a more refined handle.

It isn't coincidence that after working with Lucas while injured he came out shooting and playing well, before he started falling into some of his prior inconsistent mechanics.

 

The question you posed was why does he still have flaws in his game. That's the question I was responding to. All the drive in the world isn't going to overcome all your flaws that quickly.

 

Kyrie was small when he 1st came to the NBA but he finished at a high level, that's the body control I am talking about even Curry finished better at the rim as a youngster, look at Morant's body control.

1st step really means nothing if you don't have body control and I have yet to see him do that at a high level.

One of the biggest attributes about Green was that he had a year under his belt playing against older guys and being professionally trained, but he looks like a guy straight out of HS, what exactly has he been working hard on?

 

You made the exscuse that he was 19, there have been 19 year olds who did not have all of those flaws in their games when they came out..

He also had an entire year previously to do nothing but work on those flaws and all the money to do it, yet here we are.

Kyrie was about the same age and stature yet he did not have the same flaws as him.

Sometimes those flaws can't be overcome, I hope they will but those are the facts and why SG's have been a big miss to hit ratio.

 

I want to say I am glad we can have a civil conversation about Green, everybody has responded reasonably and not gotten in their feelings.

We need more conversations like this.

 

I'm not saying he will absolutely overcome them. I'm saying questioning his work ethic because he hasn't overcome them before his 20th birthday is unfair. I'm saying that the answer to why hasn't he overcome them yet is likely his age if he's to overcome them at all.

 

I just don’t know what is happening, the pre-draft highlights had such mind-blowing acrobatics, hang time, twisting ability. We haven’t seen any of that at the pro-level.

 

Really need to stop comparing Jalen to the GREATS like MJ, Kobe and even Nique.

I'd be THRILLED if Green just ended up as good as PLASTIC MAN one day.





Both Augmon and The Human Highlight Reel were 6'8 and much more physical finishers in traffic but Dominique was one of the few players that Bird considered unstoppable when he got hot.

Not to mention Nique was 9× All Star and also won a scoring title as contemporary of MJ, Bird, Jabar, Dream, Drexler, Richmond, Barkley, Mailman, etc.

 

I agree. If you're going to be disappointed he isn't in the Top 50 or 75 players of all time, then you need to adjust your expectations. Those players are exceedingly rare, obviously.

 

Do you guys think Nix would be drafted, now that he has blown up in the Gleague?

DD

 

The thing is he was being hyped as that guy leading up to the draft, I never believed that.

I am disappointed because he has not shown to be a guy who would get major minutes on a contending team so far, mainly due to his defense and his inability to shoot at a high level.

My biggest disappointment is that I have not seen enough flashes of greatness being individual plays or putting a stamp on the game.

I have not seen IT.

 

Kyrie was incredibly skilled when he entered the NBA and has all time great body control and has always had an exceptional handle.

FWIW Green is finishing better at the rim than Kyrie Irving did as a rookie, actually Green is finishing at a higher percentage than the career average for Kyrie Irving. Where Green is struggling is in the 3-10 foot range where he has been absolutely atrocious.

Green also is finishing inside at a higher rate than Curry did as a rookie as well and Morant.

The big increase in finishing inside for Morant came this year.

 

Armoni Brooks is the consensus best shooter on the Rockets by a mile according to his teammates. He is only shooting 31% from 3 this season. Green's shooting is disappointing so far. But I am not counting him a bad shooter just yet. I hope it is just rookie flutter.

 

just Stone

 

What about his defense?

DD

 

I think Green can be an average defender because of hard work and foot speed but I don't think he is an especially talented defender. He lacks real length or a great center of gravity. A large part of why I wanted Mobley over Green is because Green is limited defensively. He isn't Trae Young or Steph Curry but he lacks the size and length to ever be really good on that side of the ball.

He should be good enough where he doesn't require a great system around him (like Curry) and he isn't a likely sieve like Young.

I would really be concerned if he didn't work hard and show effort defensively.... he does, he just sucks at it at this point.

 

I will say this.... with the Rockets drafting Green and Sengun, the Rockets are almost boxed into having to take a player with the potential to be a good defender with their lottery pick this year. Now they are lucky because Holmgren, Ivey, Smith and Sharpe all have very high upside defensively. Banchero doesn't so much.

 

It's going to take more than effort to be an average to good defender.

Green has the lateral agility and quickness but he lacks the IQ, which is critical for a player that lacks both length and strength.