I disagree. Now imagine Martians taking over the earth. No matter how good Martians are, there's always going to be resistance, because we're not the same race. Not to mention that US bombs have killed innocent people, and the prisoner abuse images have not shown the good sides of the Americans. This is true. But don't you agree that US has more power than anybody else in the world? Ask yourself, is that truly fair?
What do Kurds have to do with America? I agree that Saddam is a horrible dictator. But you can't beat him up because of that. Can you shoot your neighbor because he abuses his son and wive?
There's a 90% chance that you are wrong. There's a 90 % chance that I am right. Now, I predict you're going to hang your simian feces covered hat on the fact that nobody knows the name of the guy in the picture who was beaten to death or attacked by a dog so we don't know if he was a terrorist or not (even if he was, you still have to prove that there was no ticking time bomb or hostage scenario, which you can't). So go ahead and post an asinine and borderline offensive response declaring victory; you might as well continue making a specatcle of yourself so that any newcomers can see what you're all about.
Got a link? Some of you people act as if terrorism didn't even exist until we invaded Iraq. I guess al quada's propaganda is working on some people...
Notice I said in Iraq. I know terrorism existed before the war, but not in Iraq, at least not to the current extent. I just wonder why do Iraqis deserve this. Innocent Iraqis are suffering now daily under terrorist attacks. Yeah, Saddam did execute a lot of people, but he didn't kill people randomly. Most people he executed were criminals, at least under his lawbook.
Especially after Nick Berg and especially after this tragedy I will not support torture of prisoners regardless of what information they have. Terrorist actions only make me more firm in my belief in the principles of law, order, The United States constitutions, the freedoms guaranteed in that constitution, and justice for all. I know that torture might save some folks in the short term, but costs us more people in the long term, as well as selling our beliefs up the river. It leaves us with no dignity, no honor, no highground, and a poor example for the spread of democracy.
No Sham, you are wrong. Your knowledge of statistical sampling is very weak. Let me further illustrate to you why you are wrong. We have a school. 90% of the children behave well. 10% behave poorly. 10% get punished. What you are saying is that there is a 90% chance that the people being punished behave well. Laughable, ShamFisher. Truly laughable.
That's not the point. Prisoners should not be treated as such, particularly not by the army of a government that supposedly respects human rights.
Terrorism has me mad as hell at our government I'm not going to point a finger at a specific person, administration, or political party. I don't want to. This post isn't about Bush vs. Kerry (or whoever). It's not about liberals vs. conservatives. And it's not about Republicans vs. Democrats. Our government isn't 100% one way or another, and I don't believe that one specific entity is the cause of our problmes. This post is about our governmental failure. I'm mad that the terrorist group that attacked us before 9/11 and attacked us ON 9/11 is still attacking us today. We have not stricken hard enough and are not striking hard enough against them. I'm mad that our enemies are sneakier than we are. With our advanced technology and intelligence, we should be able to determine where our enemies are hiding. We should be able to send in elite military units to retrieve hostages and destroy our enemies. And if the hostages are killed in the process, at least they died a little better than having their heads cut off in front of the world while their attackers walk away. I'm mad because, in addition to the people that the terrorits have murdered heartlessly, the recent gruesome executions of Berg and Johnson that have been splashed across the world have gone completely unanswered and continue to do so. I'm mad because Al Qaida should not exist at all. They should have been obliterated years ago. I'm mad because America's intelligence department isn't doing its job well enough. America's defense department isn't doing its job well enough. And I'm furious as hell with our lackadaisical and beurocratic attitude. While we talk and hold meetings, they capture, take hostage, and murder. I'm mad becuase America's defense department does not have adequate control over those who oversee prisoners-of-war. Those prisoners should not be mistreated or killed unjustly - we should be better than that. Rambling: And I'll betcha that if Al Quaida got their hands on one or more family members of our governmental leaders and cut off their heads on CNN, I bet our policies and procedures would change pretty darned quick. our people deserve better and our soldiers certainly deserve better. WTF is going on with our leaders?!?!? We can't just keep pulling our citizens out of countries because of Al Qaida - they have cells in countries all over the world Also, I have read ZERO reports that the prisoners we have were killed by guards. I will believe it that when I have read it from a reputable source. The fact that they were humiliated is aweful, but it's not murder. The fact that they may have died in custody does not mean that the guards killed them. Honestly, if you put 5 Al Quaida prisoners together in the came room, they'd kill one of their own and accuse a guard of doing it just so they could win support. Show me the news report that states that the prisoners were killed by guards and I'll believe it (and be equally appalled by it). Johnson never tried to kill anyone. He was one of many civilians who worked on military equipment. AND... There's a difference betweent a soldier being killed and a civillian being killed. How many enemy civilians has the U.S. publicly beheaded? ZERO. And - we can't blame muslims. That's like blaming all Christians because of David Koresh. Muslims probably feel aweful to even be associated with these psychos. Just furious -- droxford
Interesting that you assume the people saddam imprisoned were criminals but the people that the US imprisoned were innocent. Also, the scumbags who did this don't give a sweet rats ass about the people of Iraq. That's why they keep blowing up car bombs and killing Iraqi civilians. They're just using our invasion as a way to justify what they always do...murder civilians.
So does Saddam imprison random people on the street? True, we don't know, but use your common sense. I never said the US prisoners are innocent. I jsut said they shouldn't be treated as such.
True, but neither does the US government. Terrorists do murder civilians, but that's not their purpose. If the US pull out of Iraq, do you still suppose they'll blow up Iraqis daily?
