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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NJRocket, Jun 18, 2004.

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  1. Dennis2112

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    I know that because we are considered infidels to them. I have done some minor theological studies and most Muslim's are peace loving and very considerate people. I have know many of them who are very discussed at the terrorist's actions. Even the action's of the Homicide bombers in Israel.l

    This is not a realious issue although the terrorists would like you to believe it is. Just as the KKK use the bible and take scriptures out of context to validate their sick agenda, so do the Terrorists use verses out of the Koran to validate theirs.
     
  2. El_Conquistador

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    First, this is a tragedy. I am sickened by what these animals have done here.

    I recommend that the liberals here look at the photos on Drudge's site. Then I recommend that they view the Nic Berg beheading video. When that's done, tell me you don't support aggressive interrogations of prisoners who may have valuable information to stop acts such as these. Tell me you don't support aggressive interrogation to stop the murdering of family and friends. Tell me you don't support aggressive interrogation to stop mass murders, like 9-11.
     
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    No sir. No. Your implication is that we started the War on Terror. We didn't start it. We'll darn sure end it, but al Queda started it.
     
  4. tedwhite

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    Agreed completely this is one of the darkest sides of human race.

    But humans are prone to do this. Americans may be more peace loving than others, but that doesn't mean that hatred cannot bring the beasts out of us.

    9-11 is a mass murder, indeed. But why isn't bombings in Iraq? Innocent children die, only they're not Americans.
     
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    Those pictures on the Drudge Report are some of the most awful I have ever seen.
     
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    If it appears that these Iraqi POWs were killed by Americans, then of course Iraqis are going to believe they were killed by Americans. What else would they think?

    If you were in their shoes, I doubt you'd say to yourself, "Well, Americans killed 10,000 civilians and tortured countless POWs, but these pictures are probably taken out of context." C'mon. It's unrealistic to assume that Iraqis will give us the benefit of a doubt we haven't earned. Would you trust them?

    It still baffles me that the administration practically encouraged this kind of disgusting behavior. Absolutely and completely irresponsible. It creates the appearance that Americans are arrogant pricks without respect for human life. Whether true or not (it's not), that impression creates an entirely new set of dangerous problems.
     
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    Saddam had every chance possible to stop the bombing of Iraq. He refused. He had chance after chance after chance. Do not blame the bombing of Iraq on the coalition of forces. Blame it on Saddam's refusal to account for WMD and comply with inspectors.
     
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    You'll never going to end it. Terrorism in Iraq has grown 100-fold since the day US troops landed there.

    War only creates more hate. And hate creates more terrorism.
     
  9. tedwhite

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    ON WMD:
    Where the hell are they?

    Your logic makes no sense. It's like I threaten to beat you up if you don't kneel down. And then I beat you up, and I blame you for not obeying my request.
     
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    Let us see what the effects of having a stable democracy in Iraq does to the level of education and wealth in the Middle East. This will have more of an effective on the level of terrorists than will anything else. Education is huge in this battle. There is no short-term solution. The long term solution is currently being implemented.
     
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    Sorry there Smarty Jones, most of the people who were tortured at Abu Ghraib weren't terrorists and were picked up at random or for petty criminal offenses -- not to mention that this poor guy was killed by Saudis, apparently, and not Iraqis. There is no connection between the two; the people at Abu Ghraib didn't know anything about ticking time bombs or kidnapped hostages. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Nice attempt to further derail the thread though and to capitalize on this poor man's death for political gain/or whatever bizarre satisfaction you get out of your little "psychological warfare" routine. Please stop, seriously.
     
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    That's funny, because that's what we asked Saddam! He didn't answer. He failed to account for previously-accounted for WMD. Were we supposed to take him at his word that they vanished? Of course not. That is no way to protect our nation.
     
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    Why the hell should he answer?

    US has billions of WMDs and does it ever tell other nations where they are?
     
  14. Dennis2112

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    You know why it has increased? Because they are going there to fight our troops. Which is fine with me. I would much them to fight our soldiers there then to fight our police and innocents here at home.

    Peace, love, and all that crap is fine when both sides want it but the terrorists do not. Their idea of peace for all of us to convert to their way of thinking or be wiped out. You can't negotiate with that type of mentality. It is about power and control, plain and simple.
     
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    Very well said.

    This beheading is a horrible, horrible, crime that serves no purpose. I hate this kind of thing, and I want all effort concentrated on stopping those that perpetrate this kind of thing. I've wanted that all along.
     
  16. Dennis2112

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    Because we don't use them on our own people. Ask the Kurds about Saddam and his WMDs.
     
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    Ho ho ho! It is a truly wonderful day when ShamFisher decides to engage The_Conquistador! Wonderful indeed! Let me point out to you the fatal flaw in your argument, ShamFisher. The fatal flaw is not knowing the background of the prisoners who were subject to 'abuse'. While there *could* have been innocents at the prison, it is very possible that the people being 'abused' were some of the most evil, insane killers known to man. Unless you can provide a detailed report on the backgrounds of each of the prisoners photographed, then I'm afraid you have no case here, ShamFisher. Sorry! Will you choose to continue this argument, and fall victim to the tragic endings of past engagements with The_Conquistador? Your choice!
     
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    Umm... maybe because there aren't UN resolutions in place that prohibit us from having them? Nice try, sir.
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    As a condition of the end of the first Gulf War he had to answer the question about where they were.
     
  20. gifford1967

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    Are you really going to clown around in this thread?
     

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